How do you rate the trainer Don Turner?

Angelina Dundee, Emmanuelle Steward and Milfreddy Roach.

 

I think that many would be surprised at how little on the floor gym work great trainers do. So many are PR guys or "fight plan" guys that show up on fight night to "motivate" the fighter. For the most part, the guys that build the fighter remain unknown.

My partner in this boxing biz has trained an Olympian, a Pan Am games winner. He trained a world champion from the start of his pro career, and worked with three other world champions. He started, as amateurs, three guys that subsequently won championships. Nobody knows him, he goes to work every day.

The guy that did the day in day out work with Ricardo Lopez now has a gym in Texas and you've almost certainly never heard of the guy that actually trained Julio Cesar Chavez because he got politicked out of the fame and fortune.

 

Hes the biggest shite talker in boxing. Rubbished Ward before the rematch then threw his own fighter Kov under a bus after the rematch. His opinion changes like the wind

 

meh, if I had my druthers I'd work with Nacho, Anatoli Lomachenko, Kenny Weldon, Tom Yankello, John Brown or Ray Ontiveros.

 

Nacho does zero gym work.

 

Yeah, but I'm such a bad @$$ he'd make an exception for me.

 

Very true. There's still more than ample reason to consider him a big-time ****-talker though.

 

It is an interesting concept. I know of a guy that worked in obscurity for years. His father was a noted trainer. He developed the fight plan for a fight that is frequently discussed here, trained the fighter. The last two weeks, the TV trainer came in and this guy taught the TV trainer the fight plan and the terminology being used.

Most of the top trainers get guys that are finished product; in most cases they diminish the fighter. For example, Oscar DLH. Jesus Rivero was building a masterpiece, a great fighter. But he got politicked and "name" trainers took over. Clancy and Steward ruined Oscar because they trained to something other than the strengths of the fighter.

 

The whole problem was the chemistry. JDJ wasn't strong enough for Kov, and was slowly beat down, its partly his problem. Its like a gaffa at work that doesn't like you, but you stay like a little ***** and the abuse gets worse. You know where the door is, but the ***** in you allows you to take even more abuse because your weak, then eventually, you both wish the other was dead. Don Turner makes it up as he goes along too !

 

Your on your own there !

 

Fritz Sdunek is the only man credited with having trained Vitali,which he did for his entire pro career.
Sdunek,Emmanuel Steward, and Jonathon Banks ,the only ones credited with training Wladimir.
You make videos,have you any of Don Turner in the corner of either Klitchko brother during a fight?
Have you ever seen any of him working in either brothers corner?

 

Can you find any reference on Box Rec of Don Turner training the following:
Mike McCallum
Aaron Pryor
Vasyl Lomachenko
Vitali Klitschko
Wladimir Klitschko

If the answer is no ,why do you think that would be?

N.B.Turner was the trainer of Kovalev for 18months,and his first ten fights. Then Kovalev left him.
Turner trained Larry Holmes for the Mercer,McCall, and Nielsen fights, how much input he would have for a 45 years old ex champion is a moot point,imo.

 

Roach was named trainer of the year by the American Boxing Writers,[BWAA.] 5 times between2003 and 2010.