How do you rate the trainer Don Turner?

He actually said that if you put both the Klitschko brothers in the ring with Rocky at the same time,Rocky would ko them both! I didn't mention it before because its too silly for words.
What Turner thinks of the Klits ,[not much ,he said neither can fight,] has no relevance whatsoever to my asking some inconvenient questions that are still unanswered.

 

Thats a start not much of one , but a start lol ! If he was still alive and I was researching fighters ,the first guy I would turn to would be,Hank Kaplan and he never trained anyone!

 

Yeah, Turner is probably a busy boxing journalist's dream. Who else would you call if you were trying to crank out your third book in a year and wanted some quick, colorful quotes? As I mentioned, Hauser eventually got close to him. Hard to imagine him airing out the Turner criticisms to that extent in his later works.

 

I didn't know Turner and Steward were at odds ,this might explain why Turner was so disparaging about the pads ,since Steward was the guy who really made them an essential part of the job.

 

BTW, whether they're overstated or not, the rumors and gossip that Hauser alludes to in this excerpt suggest that the questions that some folks in this thread have raised about Turner's value have existed for a very long time. Makes his professional success all the more interesting.

 

Actually you said he saw Rocky when he was in his teens.

I'm not emotional, I'm sitting here drinking tea and eating an orange! Get hold of a copy of ,"The Arc Of Boxing," that will give you the relevant info on Goldman and the pads.

 

I enjoy Hauser's stuff, though some aren't so positive about him including What's his name, the Harry Greb expert?
I was talking to a boxing author today,think I'll ask him his opinions.

 

LMAO. I made no such "non sequitur assumptive accusations." (whatever that is) I've only flipped through a few of his books but I think that Hauser is a very busy, prolific writer who has a soft spot for the characters and insider lore of the sport. It's no mystery why someone like him would develop a soft spot for someone like Turner, and cultivate that into a beneficial working relationship.

Interesting that you completely ignored the content of my Hauser excerpt (twice) to respond with non-sequiturs about Hauser's later writings on Turner. I thought you'd find my post interesting and relevant, even though it runs counter to your transparent agenda to lionize Turner.

 

Ahhh, Mike Silver's book. A fount of jaded cliche takes on all that's wrong with modern boxing.

 

"Getting back to training, 'Cannonball' was the first trainer I saw utilize the medicine ball as a training tool to catch the punches of his fighter, and *Charley Goldman the trainer of 'Rocky' Marciano the first I observed using a modified version of the Punch Mitts which the modern day trainers swear by, there's only one problem new guys, fighting is an offensive and defensive game, punch mitts as used by the modern crowd are one way, offensive only, it doesn't teach any defense and gives your boxer a false sense of doing well. I use the type of punch mitt which is a combination pad and boxing glove so if my boxer makes a mistake he pays for it! You instruct the entire game not half of it!

* Charley probably came up with this idea because 'Rocky' started late and originally he was very clumsy and he needed to find some way for 'The Rock' to refine his heavy punches, in lieu of wild haymakers."

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