He clearly beat both those guys. Holt only made it close because of the two knockdowns. Who the hell has Ortiz beat? Has he beat anyone near the class of Holt or Witter? We do know that he got beat up and quit against Maidana. A guy who lacks heart and is not a great talent, is going to have a hard time with Bradly. Khan got knocked out by a C level fighter, and has been carefully matched pretty much his whole career. He's another one who hasn't beat anyone on Holt or Witter's level.
It wasn't too long ago that Hatton dominated a top junior welterweight in Malignaggi. Bradley has yet to dominate a top fighter at 140. Hatton was destroyed by Pacquiao and Mayweather...the two best fighters in the world, who likely give Bradley similar treatment. Bradley did NOT beat Campbell. That fight was a NC. Contrary to popular opinion, Bradley-Campbell was a competitive bout prior to the clash of heads. So I dont I see why you consider that a win.
I think he'll beat Maidana too. Maidana is a determined brawler with a great chin, but Bradley is to versatile. He can outbox Maidana at times, and be aggressive when he needs to be. Plus he will hit Maidana in the body which will slow him down. I think Bradley wins by decision, and puts on a dominating performance that shows he's clearly an elite fighter. The only thing I think Bradley lacks is Power.
You only assume this because Hatton got annihilated by Pacquiao. I'm not saying Hatton is peak, because I felt he peaked a long, long time ago. I'm just saying..him getting destroyed by the best fighter in the world shouldn't be used as a barometer for measuring how a fight between him and lesser fighters than Manny would play out. I didn't say he was ahead of Bradley, I'd say he has as much claim to be the junior welterweight in the world as Bradley does. Unless maybe if you consider Bradley's No Contest against Campbell a victory. Funny how you dismiss Ortiz and Khan, while pumping up Holt..who has been stopped twice by journeymen. Bradley won rounds 1 and 2, by outworking Campbell. Still he landed nothing really significant and wasn't able to get off cleanly until the headbutt. Anything could have happened in that fight. Remember, Campbell lost the early rounds to Juan Diaz too. Incidentally, Campbell also shifted the tide of the fight with a clash of heads.
I'm a Campbell fan but it wasn't competitive. Bradley was clearly getting the better of Nate. Just admit you don't like Bradley an move on.
What exactly did Bradley do prior to the clash of hides besides land on arms and elbows? I guess I'm a hater now for calling it like I see it...
Once you get knocked out like that, you change as a fighter. You're a little more tentitive. Hatton has been brutally knocked out twice now. That's not good news for a swarming brawler. All the reports say that he's vastly out of shape. Reportedly, he tried to go back to the gym and quit after a few days. This guy is mentally, and physically done. He should not fight ever again. No he does not have as good of a claim as Bradley, plain and simple. Just because you felt he couldn't beat Urango doesn't change this. The one stoppage was after he lost to Bradley. And that guy really isn't a journeyman. Holt has also beat Diaz and Torres. Those are better than any wins Amere Con or Ortiz have.
Thats how I see it really. He got put down twice by Holt and had a ND with Campbell, I dont understand all the hype at this time, but who knows?
That completely depends on the fighter. Oscar Larios got sparked out just as brutally years ago in one round by Israel Vazquez and still had a solid career, afterwards. There was no change in him and plenty of other fighters who suffered similar defeats. The prediction I made on Alexander-Urango has nothing to do, whatsoever, with the topic at hand. Holt beat Torres and Diaz both in controversial fashion. The Diaz stoppage was premature and the Torres KO was the result of a headbutt, albeit an unintentional one. And why exactly don't you consider Mabuza a journeyman?
What did he do? He won the first 3 rounds and was up 3-0. He could get to Nate anytime he wanted had the faster hands and was clearly wining the fight.
It's almost as if you're suggesting winning early rounds is indicative of what's going to happen in the remainder of the fight. Had Bradley dominated in rounds and two, maybe I could understand your logic in this particular case..but that's not so. Just look at the "highlights" Showtime could muster out of those 3 rounds... [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBCduAQWxK4[/ame] Minimal flush punches landing..lots of flurrying and shoeshining on arms.
Look man I'm a Nate fan and picked him to win the fight but he was losing that fight and was losing clearly he was outworked and outlanded and judging by those early rounds I don't think he would have ever had an answer for Bradley's workrate or speed.
A lot of people on this forum don't understand that styles make fights. I agree that Bradley's win over Witter was better than Alexander's. Not necessarily the fashion of victory but the timing in which it happened. Not to mention he dropped Witter and Alexander didn't. Could it be that Bradley has the same thing that Mayweather has. Nobody is ever the same after they lose to Floyd. As for Urango, he hasn't looked good in years. He got schooled by Berto(ok he did move up a division but still looked like an amateur) almost got KOed by Bailey(who is a very hard puncher but lacks heart big time). As a matter of fact who has Urango beaten?The guy is a gatekeeper now. It shocked me when Alexander said that he felt if he could beat Urango, he felt he could beat anyone at 140!(huh) I rate Bradley very high and the scary thing is I think he is just now reaching his prime. If he starts knocking people out then he would be respected more.