How do you rate Tyson Fury's chances against Oleksandr Usyk?

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  1. Ygveoff

    Ygveoff New Member Full Member

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    How do you rate Tyson Fury's chances against Oleksandr Usyk?
     
  2. BCS8

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    right now? arctic percentages
     
  3. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd make him the underdog now but Fury has a habit of surprising everyone.


    9 reasons why Fury will beat Usyk

    1. 6'7.5, 85 inch reach, 260 lbs, roughhouse vs 6'2.5, 78 inch reach, 220 lbs, anti-roughhouse

    2. 10 round TKO shutout against Chisora vs 7-5 official decision against Chisora

    3. Stopped Wilder x2, Chisora, Whyte vs stopped Mchunu, Huck, Bellew, Dubois

    4. Overcame the odds as the underdog on four occasions vs overcame the odds once

    5. 2 hours and 13 minutes of pro ring time against his seven southpaw opponents and understands the southpaw stance better than most due to being a switch hitter

    6. Usyk has been officially knocked down at least three times from body shots (Levit 2011, Beterbiev 2011, Majidov 2013), with three additional known debatable instances (Beterbiev 2012, Joshua 2022, Dubois 2023) and Fury is an excellent body puncher

    7. Fury will not underestimate Usyk or lack motivation: focus-wise this will be the Fury from the 2nd Wilder fight

    8. Fury is 17 months younger than Usyk at 35.5 (1.33 years younger than 2020 Chisora, while Usyk is 3.25 years older and four fights more worn than he was against Chisora)

    9. Fury will probably have A-side advantage: he’s the far greater commercial entity, whereas Usyk is older, more dependent on speed and has expressed a desire to retire post-Fury




    6 reasons why Usyk will beat Fury

    1. Strong-chinned, mentally tough southpaw like Wallin

    2. Athletic former cruiserweight champion like Cunningham

    3. 2x P4P No.1, best cruiserweight and southpaw heavyweight of all time

    4. Lots of experience sparring and beating SHW’s, including Wlad and Joshua x2

    5. Usyk has been a much more consummate professional (no junk food/alcohol/drug use, radical weight fluctuations, inconsistent training habits or long periods of inactivity)

    6. Fury sustained a lot of damage 4 months prior against KO artist Ngannou
     
  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've always favoured Fury in this match up but now I'm not so sure. Fury looked shot vs Ngannou, his movement was not great, his jab in the first half was non existent for the most part and he just looked slow.

    I've always said Fury's prime would be short, but he's surprised me with how long he's lasted, but maybe now at 35 all those years of weight fluctuations, drink and drugs has caught up with him. Even if he gets his weight back down to his normal fighting weight, he maybe done at the top level.

    I'd say it's a 50/50 fight right now, simply because we don't know if Fury still has anything left.
     
  5. mrbigshot

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    I play devil,s advocate and still say very good . Everything where fury failed against ngannou will be an easy walk against usyk

    - unbelievable physical strenght and clinch - wrestling power
    - reinforced , headkick and elbow proven face
    - massive punching power

    Usyk will bring just his skills and his heart , beyond that he is not even comparable with ngannou on attributes i have written above .
     
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  6. roeknott

    roeknott 7.12.20 Full Member

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    After that farce at the weekend, i would still go with Fury by late stoppage.
     
  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fit Motivated Focused Fury in horsehair gloves imposing his will on a smaller man >>> Unfit Fury in foam gloves trying to wrestle an MMA fighter

    Will be a close fight.

    Fury definitely on the downhill slope but so is Usyk but nobody has really shown that the way Fury will.
     
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  8. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If "shot" Fury stops him this forum is going to utterly meltdown.
     
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  9. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If 'shot' fury beats him this will be just another day on the board, you f'n drama queen. Guys like you always predict this silly stuff, "Oh, the board will go CRAZY!!!" :lol: Spoiler alert, it's already crazy and that's just business as usual here.
     
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  10. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Usyk is good enough to avoid getting stopped paired with Fury not being a natural puncher.

    Fury can bust him up but Usyk can survive. It will go the distance.

    It's going to be dirty...Usyk needs to keep his eye on the ball and not cry to the referee and lose focus which he's done way too many times recently.
     
  11. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Fury is shot. He got more rockets on the head in only 3 matches than Usyk in his entire career. Usyk will enter Furys defence like a blade in the butter.

    Usyk by UD largely. All life.

    No hope for Belly.
     
  12. HyperionAlpha

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    If I were advising Fury....based on that performance....it would be to retire. However, there are things that are not known. Did he just sit on the couch eating possum and chips with beer for the fight camp? Have things just caught up with him? Boxers age differently. Not good taking punches to the head for a living. too much coke and drink may have finally started to take a toll...even if it was left behind long ago.
    If the fight actually happens....what can he achieve during a proper training camp? Just wouldn't be willing to bet on the out come.
    If the fight happens...and if he trains...and if he hasn't lost it and can give one more good performance....then retire ....ride off into the sunset and enjoy. Betting on Usyk though.
     
  13. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I'd still favor Fury. Probably 2-1 or even 3-1.

    I'm sure I could be totally wrong, but my current analysis of Fury-Ngannou is that Fury relies on physically overpowering and out-wrestling his opponent, and that ended up completely failing against Ngannou. But I don't see the same happening with Usyk.

    The situation kind of sucks for Usyk though: If he beats Fury, a lot of people will claim Fury is just old/shot. And I can't say for certain he isn't -- it very well could be Fury is shot now -- although I suspect he's not.
     
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  14. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Big chance.
    Usyk is not going to outbox Fury, he can move and tap Fury's shoulder all he wants, I don't care he is not landing anything, any time he get into the right distance he is getting hit... and he has no punching power, he is all wrong. How exatcly is he going to win ? Doing what ?

    This Ngannou fight has nothing to do with a Usyk fight, Ngannou is a physical specimen that Usyk only dream to be, the guy is ****ing HUGE, tall, a monster puncher, for **** sake he was as heavy as Fury and only with muscles.

    I wondering how bad it's going to look when Usyk gets soundly beaten by Fury.
     
  15. BCS8

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    I used to favour Fury coming in 100% focused ready for the fight of his life. But he's been looking worse and worse as time goes by. I think Usyk will handle him relatively easily now, and nobody will believe that Fury ever had it in him to beat Oleksander.