How do you see Hopkins vs. Kovalev going.

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  1. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly and look what Kovalev did to him and to Cleverly he beat Murat convincingly I know styles make fights but I was one of the few who picked B-Hop over Pavlick but this time it is different I think Kovalev is a different class and it is going to take another KO artist to beat him. Hopkins looked like he had slowed down vs. Murat and I thought that fight was pretty close and Hopkins was stunned a few times early on. We will have to see on the night certainly no gimme either way but Kovalev stoppage for me.
     
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  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Given the fact Kovalev has never gone 10, let alone 12 rounds, I disagree, and would not be the least bit surprised to see Kovalev thoroughly outboxed. I do not think it will take a KO artist to beat him.

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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Like I said in a previous post the amount of time it takes BHop to figure out his opponents lately is also the same amount of time it takes Kovalev to stop them.
    But your right there are some variables that could make this fight interesting but I think Sergey's power is real and Hopkins will learn this fact very quickly.
     
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  4. Rumsfeld

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    Even if it takes Hopkins as long to figure him out as it usually takes Kovalev to stop him, that does not mean that Hopkins does not know enough tricks of the trade to hang in there and make things far more difficult for Kovalev than any other opponent has.

    I have no doubt that Hopkins knows Kovalev's power is real. But I suspect the old man saw something (or at least thinks he sees something) that he believes he can exploit to neutralize it.
     
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  5. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think the reason B Hop chose Kovalev rather than Stevenson is that, as someone has already mentioned, he struggles with people who he can't control the pace against like fast guys with stamina.

    I remember a lot of people picked Clevery over Kovalev citing the same reasons but look what happend. I think this will go about 4 Kovalev getting that stoppage.

    You can never write off B Hop though so we will see.
     
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  6. iceferg

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    If you're talking about Hopkins who fought Calzaghe and Tarver then it might be 50/50 but he has aged since then.
     
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  7. CST80

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    I'm a big Hopkins fan as well, anything can happen, but losing isn't something that Hopkins fears, I thinks he's leading by example pulling the punk cards of all the duckers in the sport. I think he knows he may very well lose, but in some ways he gains more in losing to Kovalev than winning against Adonis.

    Remember his Henry Armstrong analogy in his locker speech he gave.
     
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  8. Caper

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    I sorta feel for Kov here, I mean if he loses he's yet another victim on Bhops impressive resume. If he wins....well he's fighting a 50 year old man for fuksake...not sure if Kov has the speed that JT, Calz and Dawson had to keep Bhop on the defensive long enough to gain points and win rounds. Kov is good however this fight will be extremely difficult for him to win if he cant find Bhops chin he's not going to outbox him that's almost a forgone conclusion.
     
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  9. CST80

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    The key will be the body not the chin, look at his last 2 fights, its almost as if Jackson was preparing him for an eventual match against Adonis or Hopkins
     
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  10. Caper

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    Going to the body would be an awesome gameplan, if he can remain focused and dedicated it might pay dividends though I find it hard to envision Kov not eating big right hand in the process....if the fight gets rough and evolves or digresses (depending on your preference) into one of those ugly grab pop shoting events it will not bold well for Kov. This may sound totaly inconceivable but Kovalev needs to hold his ground and try to force Bhop initiate the attack, he needs to become the counter puncher here look for rare opportunites while basing his fundamental attack through Bhops midsection. I'm not sure how long they can maintain a chess match but engaging in an all out war going balls to the wall will only allow Bhop to cash in on exp and Kov's reckless abandon.
     
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  11. Brighton bomber

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    True, it's pretty much a no win situation for Kovalev. The only way he gets even the smallest amount of credit is if he becomes the first man to stop Hopkins or if he beats BHop at his own game and out boxes him from range while on the back foot, both of which are very unlikely.
     
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  12. Caper

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    A kov stoppage...unlikely, yet it would be the best way to rid yourself of the old wizard. Anyone can be hurt and Kov has proven he packs devasting punch. I'm almost certain bhop has done his homework and can nuetralize practically everything Kov has shown us so far in his aresenal, its what he hasnt shown us that will provide him with the edge he requires to win this fight.
     
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  13. Dos Huevos

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    The first hard shot Hopkins eats he will start holding and fouling then throwing himself on the floor, faking injury and all the myopic, drunken Russophobes will praise hom for it.
     
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  14. Caper

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    And if this doesnt happen? My only concern for Kov is his bag of tricks are limited even against a 50 year old man. Kov certainly needs to go in for the kill only he needs to be patient and not force the future but let the future come to him....:rasta
     
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  15. Rumsfeld

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    :good
     
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