How does a prime 140 Hatton do in today's division?

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  1. EnzoRD

    EnzoRD Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A. I don't hate Mayweather.

    B. Yes, we are discussing a fight that happened between a welterweight ring lineal champion and a light-welterweight ring lineal champion.

    C. I wouldn't call myself a "fan" of hatton. Just as much as I don't hate mayweather. But there really was no reason for Floyd NOT to fight Hatton for the IBO, WBC I, Ring belts at Light-welterweight. If you actually look at my post I said Hatton made a mistake fighting Floyd at 147IB

    This sort of proves my point for you arguing his case for him. Would Floyd Mayweather fight Ricky Hatton at Light-welterweight?? No...... However, the proof is in the pudding..... Ricky Hatton fought Floyd Mayweather in Floyd Mayweathers division.

    And this fight could have been made at Wembley with 90,000 watching and Floyd getting bigger money. But would Floyd ever fight in England?? HEEELLL NO. Mayweather has not once fought outside the USA. Floyd Mayweather doesn't know what the lions den looks like.
     
  2. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never denied Floyd wasn't ever in the lion's den, and admitted as much in my previous post. And now it's actually obvious that I dislike Mayweather more than you. But lets get this straight. You expect the WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION to move down to fight for the 140 pound strap to placate you and Ricky? Are you joking?
     
  3. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    He would be good and even be the top of the food chain, but Crawford would expose him Mayweather style.
     
  4. EnzoRD

    EnzoRD Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Funny that you posted earlier

    Looks like you want to argue two sides of the coin. Arguing his point at fighting at 130Ib, but arguing against the point at why he can't fight at 140Ib.

    Why not? Ricky Hatton was recognised as the number 1 at Light-welterweight. And recognised for looking average at his only fight at welterweight.

    What would a guy who wanted to be known the the greatest-of-all-time do?? Or what would a guy who wanted to cherry pick his way do?

    It's not like he needed to lose more weight than Hatton's pre fight kebab diet.
     
  5. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not arguing 2 sides of the coin:patsch. I wrote down the truth. So sorry you are disappointed in the truth but Mayweather started his career at 130, and he gradually moved up. When did he ever move down? When he and Hatton fought he had been the welterweight champion for a few years. For what logical reason should he have moved down WHEN HE WAS ALREADY WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION:lol::patsch? Fighters move up, not down, especially not to placate fans like you. Did Hatton demand the fight be at 140? And would Mayweather's welter title have been at stake had they fought at 140? And just for the record, Mayweather is FULL OF **** if he honestly believes that he's the goat, but that doesn't mean he should have placated you and Hatton ( though I don't remember Hatton demanding the fight to be at 140) and moved down to 140:lol:
     
  6. EnzoRD

    EnzoRD Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Firstly, posting smilies like :lol::patsch just makes you look like a fanboy.

    Secondly, you really don't get it do you. Was you a fan of boxing in 2005-2008? Because it was known everywhere that Ricky Hatton was number 1 at light-welterweight.

    When Mayweather beat Gatti to become WBC light-welterweight champion. Ricky Hatton was THE GUY at light-welterweight as he owned the IBF, lineal, Ring Straps at light-welterweight after beating Kostya Tszyu, as Tszyu was recognised as number 1 by everyone at Light-welterweight. Mayweather was just some guy who came from the lower divisions.

    Hatton wanted the fight with Mayweather then...in 2005!. But instead of Mayweather trying to unify the division, becoming WBC, IBF, lineal light-welterweight champion. Setting up a superfight. He vacated and fought Shamba Mitchel instead. Then moved up and avoided Hatton for 3 years.

    Then made sure that Hatton was at welterweight to fight him.

    That is the truth.
     
  7. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ruslan at 140 stops any version of Ricky.
     
  8. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you believe I am a fan of Mayweather because I post smiley faces, ROCK ON BABY:lol::lol:. Oops I posted more smiley faces therefore I must be a fanboy of Mayweather's:lol:. So let's get this straight. According to you Mayweather moved up to welterweight to avoid Hatton (Of course
    the possibility DOESNT exist that Mayweather simply grew into 147 by natural or unnatural means) and avoided Hatton for THREE YEARS WHILE AT WELTER when Hatton was still campaigning at 140 except when he fought Collazo. Newsflash: Floyd Mayweather moved up to 147 to avoid Ricky Hatton and then FORCED him to move because Ricky had no choice but to move up. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I must have missed something because I never realized just how great Hatton was:lol::patsch. Oops more emoticons. I must be a Mayweather fanboy:patsch. You're right about one thing though. I don't get it.
     
  9. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No question about that. I'm afraid Hatton gets very overrated here especially because he beat 35 year old, fighting once a year at most Kostya Tszyu while he was allowed to practically throw the kitchen sink at Kostya as corrupt Dave Parriss allowed to do just that.
     
  10. Bensub

    Bensub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beat kosta who floyd ducked.
     
  11. EnzoRD

    EnzoRD Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well let me explain again, but for simpletons....

    In June 2005, Ricky hatton was number 1 light-welterweight champion. IBF, Ring, Lineal UNDEFEATED Champion.

    Floyd Mayweather became WBC champion at light-welterweight in June 2005, and instead of setting up a superfight between him and Ricky Hatton (undefeated #1 light-welterweight). He vacated his WBC strap, and fought Sharmba Mitchel in his next fight. (Who Tszyu KOd in 3 rounds just a few months before getting beat by Hatton)

    He moved upto then fight Zab Judah, who had already lost 3x, once against Kostya Tszyu who Hatton beat.

    In 2006, Carlos Baldomir was number 1 welterweight champion. A guy who had lost 9x already in his career. This means that Mayweather had the opportunity to become number 1 welterweight champion by defeating someone who had already been beaten 9x in his career, rather than face an undefeated Ricky hatton who was the number 1 at light-welterweight after defeating Tszyu.

    Mayweather had no interest in fighting Hatton at all until Hatton showed signs of weakness against Luis Calazo, which was fighting at welterweight.

    Mayweather then decides to fight Ricky Hatton, but at strictly at welterweight.

    This is cherry picking your opposition, this is what Mayweather did throughout his career. Just like fighting a drained Oscar De la Hoya before the Hatton fight, and an overbloated Juan Manuel Marquez in his fight after the Hatton fight. And not to mention a near 39 year old over-the-hill sugar shane mosley straight after that one.

    I am glad that I am giving you this schooling.

    Maybe you get it now.


    (we can all post silly smilies)


    :hi:
     
  12. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruslan is a pub footballer in at Champions league level.

    Hatton completely outboxes him. Urango was better.

    Hatton gets loads of stick due to the Pacquioa wipeout but in reality he barely lost a round in 41 out of 44 fights??
     
  13. iDavid

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    Hatton almost lost to Collazo... in his prime :patsch 147 Hatton was trash.

    2 weight classes above, fat, no PED Marquez, I know that story.

    MVC stop posting, you DKSAB.
     
  14. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beats Broner, war with Lucas, Crawford beat him.
     
  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fixed.