What would you say are the strength s and weak points in Bruno and Aj? Does Joshua at this point in time have a advantage or disadvantage in relation to frank fighting spoon? Suppose what I'm asking is, what fails Joshua now if he met the witherspoon that ko d Bruno? Is it his chin, stamina or in experience. Or a mixture of them all?
How did Bruno do nothing better than AJ? Bruno's jab was a thing of beauty. Far far superior to AJ's.
You found something he did maybe better, i applaud you, what else ? Anthony Joshua is bigger and stronger with more punching power, better combination punching, better handspeed, better defense, better counterpunching and probably better chin and stamina. In reality Lennox Lewis in 1993 wasn't better than Anthony Joshua is right now.
Right now I also think Bruno has bigger 1 punch KO power. He wasn't as strong or as explosive as AJ but his ko highlight reel is pretty brutal and shows him stopping guys with every shot in the book, with him rendering opponents unconscious and writhing in pain on the canvas from his body shots. AJ's a beast but he isn't unbeatable. The Fury who fought Klitschko would toy with AJ imo.
Yes, that version would suffice I think. In the run up to the Witherspoon - Bruno fight there was much TV coverage, and a few TV celebs were there giving their "expert" opinions (not that any of them have ever laced up a glove in their life) and one such person stated on live TV "Frank is going to win, just look at him, a perfect physical specimen, and look at the American guy, Witherspoon, he is just so out of shape and condition" Tim did look a little outwardly soft around the middle, but that doesn't mean he is out of shape or condition, well that's what I shouted at the screen anyway.
Anthony Joshua hurts his most opponents with half-loaded shots, he holds back because he concentrates on accuracy rather than power, he almost never loads up his punches and it's much more effective for him, he has always control over his punches, he doesn't swing for the fences like Deontay Wilder, if he would do it he would have more one punch knockouts. I never said that AJ is unbeatable, he has his flaws like every other fighter. I don't think Tyson Fury would beat Anthony Joshua although i think Tyson Fury is a very good fighter, it would be a bad style matchup for him, AJ is not comparable to Wladimir Klitschko, he isn't cautious and he is far more aggressive.
I agree AJ would be far more aggressive against Fury than Wlad was but that might play into Fury's hands. Fury for a big guy has terrific movement but he can get sloppy as well. He might eventually walk on to something huge after dishing out a bit of a schooling on AJ. I'd be 60/40 in favour of Fury in that fight. How do you think AJ would fair against Vitali? Unlike Wlad who is a technician Vitali is more unorthodox and possessed a grade A iron beard. AJ's still green so hes going to get better. Even so he'd dish out an unholy beating on Wilder. I think he'd take Wilder out very early. Fury on the other hand would school Wilder, probably stopping him mid to late rounds.
That was the main selling point for Bruno to beat spoon , the body built , ripped, Mike weaver type body of Frank up against the slightly tubby look of tim. But it just didn't. Make a difference really. Yes the first half of the fight was probably Bruno's, but after fatigue set in and Frank's punches had lost there pop, then it was spoons turn to shine
I don't think Fury would school Anthony Joshua, i have seen most of his fights and not only the fight against a mentally unstable Wladimir Klitschko, i think he isn't much of a threat to Anthony Joshua. I don't rate Vitali as high as some of the guys on this forum, i think his brother Wladimir is actually a notch above him, he was certainly a good fighter but i think he would have struggled with elite fighters taller than 6ft 4, i think his lean back defense wouldn't work against Anthony Joshua and i think AJ could very well beat him.
I also think that Frank was a bigger puncher. Whilst he was flawed power was definitely one of his strong points. Anthony hasn't shown that he has one punch knockout power yet, but he may do with more fights. Having said that I think he would have already shown it already if he did have it.
I think the question was how would an do against those fighters now. Not is he better than Bruno. Aj would lose those fight imo right now although I may change my mind in another two years.
Joshua has a better temperament than Bruno. He is focused and intense but in a good way. I don't feel the pressure gets to him at all. And this is a great asset over Frank. josh has everything going for him but I don't think he had it quite altogether in the Wlad fight yet. There is more to come from him. Bruno had a greater repertoire, in the Witherspoon fight he showed some very nice combinations and heart. He outboxed Tim. What let Bruno down really in this match was inexperience and the fact he was actually fighting a much better guy than a 41 year old Wlad Klitschko. With the pressure of the whole nation on him, and not being able to make an impression on Witherspoon he was taken into deep water. He didn't yet have the experience or discipline to continue boxing at long range. Both guys were just as tired it was just that Tim was the one most able to break through with the heavier shots so he was able to catch Frank. The moment Frank opened up to go for it, it was over. If you watch the fight Tim counters Frank just as Bruno committed to a last ditch assault. They land simultaneously but Frank was the one who didn't see The punch that hit him. And that's the difference. Witherspoon just came to life on instinct to finish Frank. and Frank imploded. For Joshua to beat Witherspoon he has to do what Frank did not. He might be calm enough not to drain himself with anxiety, but I didn't see in the Wlad fight that he can box like Frank had to. Witherspoon was looking to draw Frank in. He was in no mood to box, he was looking to counter and fight inside. Tim was reckless the way he fought Frank, often quite sloppy, but Frank boxed him into looking sloppy. Joshua can't box Tim into looking that sloppy, not with what he brought into the Wlad fight anyway. I see Witherspoon out jabbing Anthony, he will take ring centre just like Wlad did until Joshua decides to launch forward when Tim will have him rushing joshua onto counters. Witherspoon was a more instinctive fighter in those situations than Wlad was. He's taking Joshua out.
Good assessment. I still see Josh having the skill set to defeat that witherspoon now in a bit of a tug of war. But that's just a difference of our opinion s. So what of the other fight s that I mentioned choklab, tyson, Lewis and mccall? As I've said I see him losing to tyson and Lewis, which is no big surprise as most fighters did, but I can see him out pointing the bull. This isn't the version that ko'd lennox, this mccall was sleepwalking most of the time.