How does anyone not understand that Usyk is going to do great at heavy?

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just a bit odd to me that people are saying that Usyk will not do well at heavy, when he has already had a number of professional fights at heavy through WSB.

    Here is he beating Joyce, who is now a contender, Fa, who we all know is no that good but is currently an undefeated prospect, Modugno, who boxed professionally for awhile, and Nistor and Mezhidov, two much lauded amateurs, all in professional style matches. Add this to Hunter, Huck and Breidis all of whom have competed credibly at heavy.

    I wouldn't throw him there against Fury, who is just too big and good. He can beat anyone else, although I think Joshua is a great fight and I would not call that one. He would win every round against Wilder.










     
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  2. FuryFTW

    FuryFTW Active Member Full Member

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    I need to see more.

    WBSS is impressive but we know Usyk is a pressure fighter who expend a lot of energy, 12 rounds is very different than 6 when fighting a big guy.

    My concerns are his style being suited to fighting guys near your own weight and I think it's a young man's style

    Time will tell but im not sure on him either way.
     
  3. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    i want him to do well. However, he is already 33.

    I hope he can fight for the title in the next 1-2 years.
     
  4. Spongebob south paw pants

    Spongebob south paw pants Member Full Member

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    Really like usyk but have always said think his size will be a problem for him with the top guy's. Not knocking his abilities great all round fighter, size does matter tho
     
  5. Neon Maniac

    Neon Maniac Member Full Member

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    Why do people think he needs to be champion to succeed at heavyweight ? That’s like saying no one should be a heavyweight if they can’t be the champion. Makes no sense , Usyk would outbox Wilder easily and defeat him ,last time I checked he doesn’t have the belt and most now don’t think he gets the title back ,that’s called a double standard,there’s no one Wilder defeated that Usyk couldn’t . If he can gather a few impressive wins that’s succeeding like everyone else, he’s also pursuing AJ for his legacy ,a certain former champion ran away from it.
     
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  6. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I just like watching his skills and I like his ethos. Even if he doesn't prevail if he fights the HW elites its going to be great to watch.
     
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  7. Spongebob south paw pants

    Spongebob south paw pants Member Full Member

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    Get what you're saying but the only thing I see letting him down would be power if I'm honest but usyk has always been hard to hit. Probably even harder for a proper heavy but when it does land gonna hurt for sure, you are right tho usyk is great to watch his movement is next level great fighter
     
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  8. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears Ducking Regional Manager Full Member

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    He didn't even do that good at cruiserweight to be honest.
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What in the world? He beat five current and former champs. It isn't even a question.

    Look, things like this come up now and again, and I want to say this is the least snarky way. Hope it comes out right. You may have your own special standards of what it means to "do well." You may think that he should have knocked out every opponent, or whatever. You may have your own subjective criteria, and you are welcome to them.

    By any objective criteria, he rolled through a terrific batch of cruisers, and went to a lot of their home towns to do it. He did very, very well.
     
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  10. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears Ducking Regional Manager Full Member

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    Uh, yeah, no offense to you neither or nothin but like I don't think much of these cruisers he beat and I thought some of the fights were way close with dudes that just weren't anything near great and I have no idea why people think a lot of his chances moving up like he was just destroying all these top prime guys and far as I'm concerned, nah son. I think he's crazy overrated. So, I don't think he did that well except on paper which sure he did great on paper. But paper don't break jaws. Fists do that. Big, heavy, heavyweight fists on heavyweight chins. He's a good athelete but this is the big leagues we're talkin about and he wasn't very good against Witherspoon either when he moved up. He's very mobile but he waste tons of energy and I don't see it. It's gonna take a lot of that energy out of him when he's against a top big dude like Joshua. I think he picked a bad move and shoulda just stayed a big fish in a little puddle that got washed up in there by the rain. Peace.
     
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  11. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    I cant wait to see him tested fighting AJ.
     
  12. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    With both of them being DAZN fighters, I think that is a match we will see soon for sure. At 33, Hearn knows that Uysk probably has a fairly small window. He relies so on his legs and has had such a long amauter career.
     
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  13. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don’t see how he can beat Fury. And he’ll struggle to stay upright for 12 rounds against Wilder and Joshua. He can beat the rest.
     
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  14. FuryFTW

    FuryFTW Active Member Full Member

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    I agree, Cruiser is like the hipsters division, but I don't think in decades to come they will be waxing lyrical about Gassiev, Bellew and Bredis. That cruiser stuff doesn't matter, Usyk will be judged on if he can beat the best at heavyweight.
     
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  15. Likethembigroundchunky

    Likethembigroundchunky New Member Full Member

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    I think its because he has been hyped (rightly or wrongly) as the heavyweight Lomachenko, the next best thing, etc. Its understandable that some are going to take the polar opposite opinion simply because of this enthusiasm until he proves himself. Even if he smashes Wilder with a single straight rear hand, out boxes Fury, takes AJ toe to toe and outhooks Dillian Whyte - there will be people still say its only because of a weak division and that the 70's HW would wipe the floor with him.

    c'est la vie
     


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