How Does David Tua Do Against Mike Tyson's Opposition Prime For Prime??

It's more than can be said about your boy, Mike, who was KNOCKED OUT by Lewis. No one KO'd Tua. NO ONE at any point in his career.

If Tyson couldn't KO Tua I doubt it goes the distance. Tua would have given Tyson adversity. Bi-polar individuals don't respond well to adversity. It's why Tyson bit off Holyfield's ear.

 

Pretty shitty argument, you didnt answer a single one of my posts.

Guess whose going down as the greater fighter?

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Facts are a *****, aren't they? That damned common opponent....

You're missing my point altogether. Tua did poorly against guys with reach and size. Tyson did better, much better. However, Tua had the ability to beat any man his size, which is why I think he had a real chance at beating Tyson. In fact, I would pick Tua over Tyson in a toe to toe, contrary to the court boxing analysts. If Tua could weather the storm early, like Douglas did, he breaks Tyson's will and KO's him late.

 

Ah yes the common opponent, you didnt answer any other point i put forward, except the dreaded mutual opponent. Yawn.

Your boring me with your drivel, go away.

Douglas didnt weather any storm, moron, go watch the fight, he used his height and reach advantage to outbox Tyson. Tua has never outboxed anyone in his life.

Tyson breaks Tuas jaw before the fight is over.

Your whole argument is based on Tuas abysmal performance against Lewis where he didnt win a single round.

 

larry holmes gives tua a boxing lesson, that's for sure!

 

I don't have to. I watched it the night it was fought. Jumped out of my chair it was that awesome. That is total BS. Douglas had to take some real shots before he KO'd Tyson. People want to argue it was because he was in Tokyo and wasn't focused on the fight. BS. He got his ass handed to him by a more determined fighter that night.

And that's quite an argument you make, Tua didn't win a single round. OK, but that is better than getting your ass knocked out, like your boy, Mikey, did.

Hey, it's not like your going out on a limb here. Probably 8, maybe 9 out of 10 fans would pick Tyson over Tua but that's because of all the hysteria over Tyson. It ain't going to happen anyway so chill.

 

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Berbick had been stopped in one by Bernardo Mercardo before Tyson did it in two. Berbick was a pretty durable guy, if you didn't take him out early...But I still think the best version of Tua probably finds a way to detonate enough firepower to beat Trevor, though.

 

Tua would own Berbick! Tua could handle that level of taller fighter no problems. Berbick was durable as you say, but Tua had the answer to Berbick in either fist. Berbick was durable largely due to his way of fighting without engaging in a fight:hat Imagine a hook from Tua!! he wouldnt be doing the chicken dance like he did with Tyson, hed be fast asleep on the canvas having sweet dreams:yep

 

tua would loose to razor ruddock/tony tucker/ tony tubbs woulda given tua fits and probably beaten him..........david iazon gave prime tua fits until the end..mike tyson tko 3 over david izon if not sooner

 

Def picks up several more losses than Tyson did, unquestionably...

 

IMO prime Tua was the real deal and could've been a contender in any era. I think he potentially could've beat any of the opposition that Tyson faced. I feel out of Tyson's pre prison career Larry Holmes, Tony Tucker, Ruddock, Pinklon Thomas and Douglas would all have a fair shot at beating him though, Tua struggled with boxers who had long reach but on nights like when he fought Ibeabuchi and Izon I feel he could threaten almost any heavyweight with his rock solid chin, crunching power and work rate.

 

atsch complete bull****. Tyson was past his prime against Lewis and fought him for money and weed. it´s absolutly not compaire.

Its like Azzer85 say. Put the Prime Tyson against Lewis and the Tua of Barrett Fight against Lewis. Both fighter must be compared in there Prime.

Tyson was a Tua 2.0 or Tua was a Beta version of Tyson. Iron Mike was faster, much more expolive, more pracise, much better skills for counter punching. AND the prime motivated Tyson had a tremendous Chin who absorbed heavy Hands from Ruddock.

I see absolutly no way how a Tua can beat a prime Tyson, because Tyson was all in all the better fighter and boxer

 

Kind of like religion, we'll never know, but it's fun to wonder.

 

I've read over some of the arguments in this thread and this is what I think... When the Tua vs Lewis and the Tyson vs Lewis fight are compared in an effort to say who would've beat who I don't think its a good fight to compare. IMO Tua wasn't in his prime at the time he fought Lewis and Tyson certainly wasn't in his prime.

Tua was at his very best from around 1996-1998 at this time he looked very determined and looked like a destroyer in the ring. I feel when Tua began to put on a substantial amount of weight was when he took a step or two back. I don't feel it had as much to do with himself physical as it did to mentally. I feel Tua after fighting throughout the 90's beating many good fighters and having many good fights and never getting his shot began to unknowlingly to himself lose some of the drive to be champ. Leading up to the fight with Lewis he was still able to easily destroy some decent opponents this may have made him feel overly confident and not notice that he was slipping ever so slightly especially when it comes too his discipline and training. I speculate in the Lewis fight he was a bit mentally burnt out from all the pressure on him to perform to add too the hard training camp to add too already being burnt out from never getting his shot. I think he may came into that fight with the kinda attitude "it would be great if I win but if I lose oh well". This attitude a fighter can never enter the ring with especially against a champion like Lewis and the way Tua fought looked like he was carrying this kinda attitude.

In the past before the Lewis fight there had been other bigger rangy boxers who gave Tua difficulties Maskaev and Rahman come to mind but still in those fights he was a lot more active then in the Lewis fight and was continually pressing for the KO's which he eventually did get in both of those fights. Against Izon and Ibebuchi who were both big hard punching heavyweights Tua was able to get passed their reach and kept an incredible work rate eventually destroying Izon in the late rounds and in my view having a very even fight with Ibebuchi who potentially was as good as anybody. The Tuaman who showed up in those fights I believe wouldn't have been as easy too keep at bay, certainly wouldn't have seemed to be content just too survive the distance and likely would've been a much sterner test for Lewis.

When it comes too a match up between Tyson and Tua, I also believe this fight could've gone either way. As mentioned by Merchants Ghost I consider Tyson a better fighter overall but as I've said many times styles make fights. Tua was the kinda guy who I have a very hard time picturing losing two any fighter his size especially a fighter like Tyson who will be right there fighting him. Not only does it seem Tua in his prime was the more durable fighter, Tua was much more active. Tyson was never the kinda fighter to chalk up extremely high punch counts while Tua broke records in his fights with Ibebuchi and Izon. I don't know if Tyson would be able to handle this work rate if the fight went a number of rounds. Tyson was the more complete fighter especially at his peak and Tua being a fairly easy target could be his downfall but Tyson though having good defense his aggressive style forced him too still be quite hittable. Both had scary power and could potentially take the other out at ANY point in the fight even the first round. I think Tyson at his very best would still be in for an extremely tough fight with Tua and could potentially end up on the losing and had the Tyson who showed up after prison had fought Tua I'd have expected Tua to win especially if the fight went any longer then 5 rounds.

I must say though if I could somehow pick any ten fights that had never happened and make them happen to see how they played out Tyson vs Tua would be on the list. It would be extremely interesting to see how especially Tyson would deal with a fighter who comes forward with similar power and ferocity. No doubts that it would provide great action for whoever long it lasted