How does Dempsey do vs heavyweights post 1970-present

You just constantly find ways to make derogatory threads either directly or indirectly about him.
You seem overly consumed about this man.

 

Does it really merit a detailed response?

These guys were what they were.

They were not all time greats, but they were not complete stumble bums either!

 

Let me ask you this How many Dempsey threads or related ( disguised ) Dempsey threads have you made in the last month??
You have become worse than the Carnera guys.

 

It's a point of view you are perfectly entitled to have.
For my part I think ,"an all time great puncher ,"with the ferocity and speed into range of Dempsey would be a hard night' s work for anyone.
It would be nice if we had more footage of Jack, film of his Fulton fight might be instructional.

 

If Wlad or Lennox Lewis's careers were otherwise the same, but they got demolished in their primes by a 188Ib fighter, would you consider them an ATG?

 

And how does this help that?

 

Let the facts rule

1 ) The big men Dempsey beat were either old/in-active ( Willard ) or chinny Fulton. While he won in spectacular fashion, we need to keep it in perspective. Wills and Godfrey were the best big men of the time. Dempsey fought neither. The Willard Dempsey meet would do very poorly vs the fighters listed in this thread.

2 ) On film, Dempsey seems too easy to hit, perhaps partly due to his style.


3 ) The better boxer movers that Dempsey faced in Meehan, Miske, Sharkey or Tunney gave him trouble. Sharkey and Dempsey really made him look bad. Meehan beat him, Miske, when healthy drew with him.

4 ) How good was Dempsey's chin? Flynn KO'd him in 1. Others floored him. Fripo floored him quickly with what little he landed. Tunney floored him and had him groggy. Carpentier stunned him, and Sharkey rocked him. I'd say his chin was solid, nothing beyond that. He was only briefly tested by a power hitter in Firpo in a very short fight. Willard and Fulton landed nothing serious, so they don't count on terms of his ability to take a punch.

My Conclusion: It's speculation about how Dempsey would do vs a better big man who was in his prime. Dempsey has a puncher chance. He'll do just fine vs the non-punching types his size and certainly could upset a guy like Lyle, Lewis or Wlad if he catches them early.

However, if they are mobile boxers, the type who gave Dempsey trouble, his odds of victory go down.

If they are accurate power punchers above the level on which his chin was tested, ( most on the list ) Dempsey based on his lack of defense on film and just good enough chin vs. medium level hitters, for the most part, would be in trouble.

If they are both mobile and accurate boxer with power and greater size, Dempsey is up against the odds.

And if they hit the quadruple….mobile accurate boxers, with power, greater size and at least a solid chin, Dempsey’s chances take a nose dive.