How does Floyd beat Pacquiao fighting this way?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Gander Tasco, Nov 26, 2011.


  1. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have no idea why anyone is using the Judah fight, which happened a LONG ass time ago anyways.

    1) Floyd was not a WW in body at the time, he still had a smaller frame. He is now "big" AT WW, more physically imposing.

    2) Judah fights absolutely nothing LIKE Pac and is faster than Pac as far as one punch speed goes. Judah is faster than Mayweather. One of the reasons Mayweather had trouble with Judah was due to Judahs very GOOD counterpunching capacity. His counter punching capacity coupled with his speed, made Mayweather weary of throwing too many shots and as you can see early, Judah would catch him, due to his counter punching and timing.

    3) Judah was bigger than Mayweather, so he was more imposing in the beginning, which is where Judah can be a superb fighter.

    4) They have known each other since they were kids, friends from way back. And they always were competitive with each other. Floyd had a lot of respect for Judahs speed and power, when it came to counter punching, until he began to break him down.

    Mayweather doesn't fight flatfooted... he gives his opponent the illusion, it's called the sweet science. He gives the opponent a false target, because his weight is actually more distributed on his back leg, but he gives a false target with his upper body so as to draw them in and be able to set up the counter without having anything come back.

    Myweather can definitely fight Pac in the pocket and walk him down, because he is naturally bigger, a real WW now, he is really good at it while Manny can't fight in the pocket and anyone who punches with him always gets the better of the exchanges, as Marquez did in their last fight. He usually covers up, or throws a punch (s) and then leaps to the outside, usually getting hit in the face while doing so.

    But Pac can definitely make things uncomfortable for Mayweather, no doubt. Pac doesn't have to land a lot to the chin or body, he just has to touch him. He also needs to work on his jab more, it will be needed against mayweather. and he must, without a doubt, not get frustrated, or it will be already over.
     
  2. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's amazing that he would say he fights more like Toney. I mean, okay, he sets traps like Toney sometimes (although not exactly, toney moves his upper body differently on the inside and Mayweather favors his straight right more than his hook), but he also sets them like RJJ at times. One of Toney's weaknesses was that he had heavy footwork that could be exploited, like RJJ did and Nunn too some degree.

    Mayweather can also use lateral movement, and has in previous fights. Like he did with Gatti. Mayweather can adapt and is not one dimensional. Unlike toney, he is not heavy footed and has better reflexes, and leaps with punches from time to time.
     
  3. mancat

    mancat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTrSIRQpZkU&feature=uploademail[/ame]
     
  4. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    yes, but that would suck.....154 or forget about it
     
  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :rofl I think *******s should stick to talking about boxing gossip and the politics in boxing
     
  6. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd can stick and move but will always revert back to planting his feet and going behind that shell defense, and thats where pac will rack up the points.
     
  7. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    lol-2 different fighters bro-

    Styles make fights-

    Also, Pac gotta gift decision...he didn't WIN like he dominated or anything-

    Floyd does it better-

    and no, JMM does not do everything I said:deal
     
  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Floyd will be able to walk down Pac at his leisure by "boxing off the front foot" or he'll be able to move around the ring and "box off the back foot" ala Baldomir-

    Manny dont have the speed or skill-Floyd by KO in 7 ...maybe 8...easy fight for Floyd as Pac's style is tailormade for Floyd.
     
  9. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    Since when do Zab and Pacquiao...oh they are both southpaws :lol:
    You know jack **** about boxing.
    How can Pacquiao beat Floyd if he cant ever cut the ring off ?
     
  10. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    he can, the mosley and jmm3 fights were just "lures" to get floyd into the ring


    :rofl
     
  11. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
  12. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The bolded tells me that you either dont know what you're watching or that you dont know what to look for. Pay attention to Floyd's postional footwork. Why do you think he's always in position to counter/defend at all times?
     
  13. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What I mean is he's not always trying to stay at a range to not be hit. He likes to fight in the pocket. He actually invites his opponent to come in and get their punches off. I don't see how that's a good strategy against Pacquiao, even if you have an amazing defense. Pac offense is nasty if you dont move or keep him out out range/off balance.
     
  14. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :-(
     
  15. GOW7

    GOW7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd fights everyone different. If you watch the Ortiz fight he actually stays inside of Ortiz' lead foot and picks off alot of Ortiz' rights with his elbows. He could do the same with lunging off balance Manny has amateur hooks and a shitty jab or fight him like Marquez staying outside Manny's lead foot and use distance. Tasco youve still yet to watch Floyd instead of youtube clips but atleast youre a fanboy who's trying .