How does Hatton KO4 Castillo show that Hatton has the workrate to beat Floyd?

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  1. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How? Do people forget that Ricky Hatton has had some serious stamina issues in his fights against Collazo and Urango? Just because he put Castillo out in four rounds does not mean his stamina problems don't exist anymore. It merely means that the fight was over in 4 rounds, so we didn't get to see if his stamina has improved.

    Just a thought. Lots of people are talking about how Ricky has the style to give Floyd non-stop pressure and action, the kind he historically has trouble dealing with. It seems to me that perhaps they are saying it because they WISH it were true, but have no reason to know it is true.

    If it was something more like Hatton KO9 GOOD Castillo, than we would know a lot more about whether he has the stamina to keep pressuring Floyd the whole fight.
     
  2. Bazooka

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    in all reality though you make a good arguement its been five years and one hell of a war since Floyd fought Castillo, I mean honestly that one fight alone with Corrales took something out of him, those kind of fights do that to fighters like it or not.
    Floyd did fight and beat a fresher Castillo and had Hatton fought that same guy it would be a different story, its just the truth, Hatton does not have the work rate to beat Floyd I dont see it, the only thing he can do is what he has done, Hold and hit his way to a win, other than that he has **** for skills compaired to Mayweather, and this is comming straight from the biggest Floyd hater in the world.
     
  3. codeman99998

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    Truly, I have ordered the last two Floyd pay per views because I want to see it when/if Floyd get's KOd. I thought Oscar had a better chance than anyone else to do it.

    I seriously want to see it when it happens, because there will undoubtedly be a rematch, and it's just a great story "I was watching when the p4p best got KOd."

    I almost fell asleep while watching Baldomir-Floyd.

    I respect what you said a lot Bazooka. Just because you think one guy is going to win doesn't mean that you love him or something. I WANT to see Floyd lose badly, but I'm not dumb enough to bet a penny on it, and when it does happen, if ever, I am sure I will be pretty shocked.
     
  4. Bazooka

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    When it happens it will shock everybody much the way Tarvers Knock out over Jones did.
     
  5. nulty

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    Well he struggled against Collazo and Urango but he wasn't himself it was clear to see. However having seen him since his early days I know Ricky does not have stamina issues. TKO 11 Tyszu anyone? There were mitigating circumstances against Collazo and Urango yet still he pulled out distance wins (so before you start I'm not making excuses, I don't see the need to excuse a winning fighter). Just look at the pace he set against Castillo compared to Urango and Collazo and you'll see.
     
  6. psychopath

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    I'll make it very short and logical . . . work rate won't be a factor to get a victory against a fighter like Floyd. Work rate is a big factor only for fighters who stand and trade got the point?

    You can't hit what you can't reach so it will be stupid for a fighter to keep throwing punches when the opponent is not there.

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    To beat Floyd? You've got to land a solid punch that will make him lose his bearing and that he can't move or dance. Then you use your work rate in such a away he can't recover . . . . attack without let up . . . Pacquiao or Baby Bull style. That's the only way. :yep
     
  7. nulty

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    Very illogical imo. Unless he gets way out of weight range and get ko'd clean (and I only see this happening if goes a weight too far) then a hard high tempo 12 rounds is the only way to beat him. He won't get rocked that badly at 147 or 140.
     
  8. psychopath

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    Yes absolutely. :yep
     
  9. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree. History suggests that the fighters who throw a lot of punches intended to hit him anywhere on the body/shoulder region tend to be successful and open up oppurtunities to hurt Floyd (Castillo, DLH) while fighters who try to land a big shot knowing how difficult it is to hit Floyd clean either never land the shot (Baldomir) or soon find out that they won't be able to and just stop punching (Gatti).

    Workrate and stamina are going to matter a LOT. As soon as you get tired, you have lost.
     
  10. Imperial1

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    Unless he can hook and grab in the same manner that he did against Castillo will his workrate be effective agaisnt Mayweather .
     
  11. psychopath

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    Of coure buddy . . stamina is always a factor but work rate alone won't. The PBF that fought Castillo and DLH or Zab is a different PBF that will fight Hatton . . . are you geting my lead? PBF simply has a lot of different options in his arsenal how to fight different opponents.

    And just to make my point across, I can see PBF fighting Hatton the way Spinks fought Taylor in fact even better. :yep
     
  12. Fighting Weight

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    Agree with this - of course the Hatton fans will come back with the Tszyu win but that's bull****, dragging a late stoppage over a 35 year old does not add weight to your argument guys :deal Especially when you consider that Hatton was behind on the cards until about the 8th round in that one - Mayweather will not gas, will not get nailed and will not allow Hatton to get away with his dirty tactics. I've said it before but Hatton landed a punch to the nuts against Kostya that would have got him disqualified anywhere outside of Manchester, he fought even dirtier than normal that night. If he has to resort to that against an old man then that speaks volumes. Mayweather wouldn't lose a single round against Hatton and would most likely stop him around the 9th.

    Oh and Hattons stamina is going to be affected at some point, he's just a human being and his 'between fight' habits are unhealthy to the extreme - it's just a matter of time before it catches up with him.
     
  13. nulty

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    Oh please. Watch it again Castillo instigated more than half the clinches because Hatton came out blazing.
     
  14. nulty

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    After taking three that would have got Kostya DQ'd outside manchester. There was never going to be a DQ that night. Ricky in his book said he only throw that shot because after the three that zoo had thrown he knew he was fairly safe.
     
  15. Imperial1

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    Even if he did the only way he was able to get in that close was after he did his 1 -2 grab