How does Haye do against these heavyweights?

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  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chagaev
    Peter
    Maskaev
    Ibragimov
    Valuev
    Povetkin
     
  2. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he beats them all.
     
  3. Let's see what happens tomorrow, but Peter, Valuev and Klitchko are to big and would stop him, if he loses tomorrow to a Cruiser he can forget about facing the big boys..
     
  4. irmina

    irmina Member Full Member

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    he loses, come on and get real
    he is not that strong and accomplished as every one thinks
    these are all very good heavyweights
     
  5. Cheeseman

    Cheeseman Where all my posts go???? Full Member

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    Chagaev - sparks him in 9
    Peter - wins on points or loses to spectacular KO
    Maskaev - sparks him in 3
    Ibragimov - wins by TKO
    Valuev - points win and maybe irst person to drop the big man
    Povetkin - sparks him in 6

    Wlad - genuine 50/50, well 51 Wlad 49 Haye - Wlad the better fighter but Haye WAY quicker and possibly as powerfull - he who lands clean first wins.
     
  6. 196osh

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    Haye UDChagaev
    Haye UD Peter
    Haye KO Maskaev
    Haye KO Ibragimov
    Haye UD Valuev

    Povetkin UD Haye could go either way
     
  7. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't see why peter is to big for haye to out box and maybe ko, the same with valeuv who for his massive size is very slow. In regards to wlad obviously haye wouldn't be favourie especially as he is still fighting at crusier at the moment. However after he ko's enzo he is moving up and i think he will cause some big waves.
     
  8. Irländsk

    Irländsk Boxing Addict banned

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    Chagaev UD Haye
    Peter KO Haye
    Haye KO Maskaev
    Ibragimov UD Haye
    Valuev TKO Haye
    Povetkin TKO Haye
     
  9. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haye would probably lose to all of them by knockout, Hayes chin would be more exposed than Brittany Spears *****, if the guy gets dropped by Cruisers, what do you think going to happen when a guy 250, who's a powerful puncher catches him? These guys already felt fighters with Hayes type power, Haye hasnt felt Heavyweight power like these guys possess before.
     
  10. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I understand what your saying but haye is a 230 pound fighter that bois down and this effects his chin, i think like in the case of cotto going up in weight will make a big difference. Also none of the fighters at heavyweight have his potential, he has the combo of power ,speed and skill which is lacking in all the current heavyweights.
     
  11. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Weight draining anyone? Cotto was easily hurt at JWW but when he moved up he was fine.

    They have not seen anywhere near Hayes speed. Not even close! It is the punch you dont see that knocks you out.
     
  12. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree, the mans extremely talented, fast, powerful, skilled, but his chin is very weak, I seen the times he got knocked down, Heavyweights land them type of shots a couple times during a fight, and with Hayes weak defense, there bound to land.
     
  13. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thing is until hs stops weight draining it is hard to tell if he has a really weak chin or if the weight draining has a big effect. Also i still don't see the likes of valeuv even being able to land that one big shot on him.
     
  14. Punisher33

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    I wont diagree with you on the last part of your post, the punch that you dont see coming is the most deadly. The weight draining thing, I can only buy into so much, even if that is true, whats the reason for it, if he's so good and powerful, why did he leave the Heavyweight division, and drop down to the less paying Cruiserweight division? I feel Hayes a questions mark regarding what he can do at Heavyweight, but with his weak defense and chin, he will be on the canvas often when he moves back to Heavyweight, he might just become the next Audley Harrison.
     
  15. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The reason haye dropped back down is becuase it is the bioggest fight in british boxing since been vs eubank and he gives the fans what they want even if it is a risk.