How does Haye fair against Wladimir past opponents since his domination at the top?

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  1. rocky1

    rocky1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Haye would beat all of them except I think the sam peter wlad fought first time round would give Haye hell I think thats about 50/50 but i'm leaning towards peter.

    For the people saying Thompson would beat Haye this is what Thompson said about Haye after sparring with him.


    "I think David's been looking sharper and sharper as he's been going along and he's in great condition for this fight," said The Tiger, who is a former world heavyweight title challenger.

    "I told David at the beginning that if he could hit me with right hands and beat the hell out of me in practice, he will destroy Audley Harrison. If David can do what he did to me, Audley's got no shot in this fight at all.

    "I couldn't have been more impressed with David in sparring and he was twice the fighter I first thought he was. I just think this is going to be an easy win for him on November 13."



    That looks to me like Thompson is admitting Haye got the better of him.
     
  2. Jared

    Jared Active Member Full Member

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    Eddie Chambers beat Haye? Come on man
     
  3. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if haye beats chaggy thompson ect ect.why weas he feasting on bums untill he got his shot..y does no1 think before they type??its ****ing crazy
     
  4. rocky1

    rocky1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Monte Barret - Heavyweight Gatekeeper haye's 1st fight at heavy besides 37-1 Thomasz bonin who Haye ko'd in a round. . Reasonable opponent.

    Nikolay Valuev - Beltholder, biggest world champ ever, was ranked 4th in the division. Good opponent.

    John Ruiz - Former 2 time world champ only stopped once in his career and that was by Tua. Haye's wba mandatory. Ruiz was ranked somewhere between 7-12 in the division at the time.Somewhat of a name in the division. Reasonable opponent.

    Audley Harrison - Ok Audley sucked but he was/is a big name in the uk/ European champ (Just about) this was purely a money making exercise I wont try and defend this 1.

    So who are all these bums Haye was fighting.
     
  5. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I reckon Sam Peter would present him with some problems.

    Not saying he would necessarily win, but Peter has a pretty sturdy chin and a big punch. He would be a live threat throughout.
     
  6. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Haye said numerous times Wlad was just fighting HW bums. If Wlad was fighting bums then Haye's HW bums are much worse.

    I'm sick of these bull**** double-standards. If you're saying Haye's HW opponents are solid then so are Wlad's.
     
  7. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    y fight a gatekeeper if they are all bums??ruiz was his mandatory just the way chagaev is his mandatory??ruiz was well ****ing past it so dont even try and post some shite about him being a 2 time heavyweight champ he got the belts handed to him half the ****ing time...and like uve said about audley..now again i repeat WHY WAS HAYE FIGHTING THESE MEN WHEN HE COULD HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THE OTHER BUMS OF THE DIVISION....like i said before if the wba had of gave haye the green light for mormeck this wudnt even be happening..
     
  8. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Thompson already beat his ass and dropped him in sparring!
     
  9. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's sheer nonsense really. Never mind Wlad, clearly comeback Vitali who has operated at heavyweight pretty much since Haye moved up has a far better body of work.

    Juan Carlos Gomez, The former long standing cw king. This win for Vitali would have been equal to beating Haye at the same time, possibly a better scalp.

    Sam Peter, Prime world champion Peter is a great win and better than a win over Haye at the same time.

    Solis, Olympic legend unbeaten, legacy wise as good a win as beating Haye.

    Arreola, unbeaten highly fancied yank, a better win than any Haye has.

    Kingpin, a nothing fight, means nothing even though he was unbeaten.

    Briggs, a big ball of muscle with no movement. At best it could be seen as equal to beating the donkey Valuev although probably not as good.

    Sosnowski, crap opponent. Was in his prime and a european champion and actually give Vitali his toughest fight since his comeback but never the less a crap opponent.


    While haye has

    Valuev

    A-Force

    Ruiz

    Bonnin

    Monte


    The only one of those that is slightly even worth a damn is Valuev, Vitali having a win over one of those other clowns would have meant jack **** to him.
     
  10. simon850

    simon850 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on :good
     
  11. Greco

    Greco Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would give Haye a good chance to beat any of the guys that Wladimir has fought recently. I think that Chambers might take him by decision though if Haye couldn't stop him.
     
  12. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're a ****in idiot.

    Ibraginov can't outbox Haye, and he can't outfight him. What would he do?
     
  13. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The same Thompson that said Haye was "battering" him in sparring?

    Shut the **** up you piece of ****.
     
  14. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    SHUT THE **** UP. GET THE **** OUT.

    Haye's been battering me - Thompson

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    Tony Thompson, the man who supposedly floored
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    in sparring, has told
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    that he is 'leagues below' Haye going into the November 13 showdown.
    Haye and Harrison are set for the biggest All-British heavyweight boxing encounter since Lennox Lewis met Frank Bruno, with the WBA heavyweight title the prize for the winner. And in a clash of two former training partners, the trash talk ahead of the bout - particularly from the Harrison camp - has been relentless.
    On Monday the Olympic gold medallist
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    by claiming that sparring partner Thompson had put him on his back. Harrison said: "I want Haye to tell me and the rest of the world what Tony Thompson did to him a couple of weeks ago, because I hear Tony Thompson knocked him down in training.
    "Tony Thompson is not a puncher, David Haye - I am. If Tony Thompson's putting you down, what the hell am I going to do to you? It's so beautiful. He brought in this guy trying to get publicity for him, but he's knocked him down already."
    Thompson did not comment on the alleged knockdown, but he did offer his opinion on the outcome of the November 13 fight, insisting Haye will win 'easily'. And in a taunt that could lead to a future fight between Thompson and Harrison, the 38-year-old claimed Harrison is not even on his level.
    "I couldn't have been more impressed with David in sparring, and he was twice the fighter I first thought he was," said Thompson. "I just think this is going to be an easy win for him on November 13.
    "I told David at the beginning that if he can hit me with right hands and beat the hell out of me in practice, he will destroy Audley Harrison. If David can do what he did to me, Audley's got no shot in this fight at all.
    "Audley is nowhere near on this level. He's leagues below where I'm operating and that's just common boxing knowledge. Anybody that has ever watched a fight on television knows that. Audley might be an Olympic gold medallist, but he's nowhere near me as a pro. I've achieved, beaten good guys and mixed with the best, whereas Audley has achieved next to nothing so far." © ESPN EMEA Ltd