How does Jack Johnson vs the best 160 or 168'er go?

Those were different times. It was a different sport. Guys were thrown to the wolves and had to learn the trade the hard way/ I understand this.

Johnson was no bum, just over-rated.

 

Dwight Muhammad Qawi would smash him to bits.

 

I have never understood why Johnson is given credit for beating a bunch of smaller fighters than him. In the case of significance he is probably #1 in Heavyweight History but as far as him being listed in anyones All Time Heavyweight top ten I don't see how. Why is he given so much credit for beating Jeffries who was out of the ring for 6 years and had to lose 100 pounds for the fight?

Johnson's era was crap and his record is littered with draws and no contests.

It just seems as if Johnson is for some reason held to a different standard than other fighters he is excused for his losses and fighting much smaller guys while others are not.

 

Jack Johnson only had 8th fighs under his belt when he meet Choynski? Who says this? The truth is more like like 25+.

Here's is Johnson's known fights before he meet Choynski. Count them if you wish:

1894
John Lee Galveston, Tx W 16 -Some sources report "KO 15"Undated (circa 1894-95)

Dave Pierson Galveston, Tx W

1895Apr 11

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Galveston, Tx L 4 -Some sources report 1899

1896 Cherokee Kansas City, Ks KO Howard Pollar Galveston, Tx W

1897 Jim Rocks Galveston, Tx KO 4

Sam Smith Galveston, Tx W 10

1898 Reddy Bremer Galveston, Tx KO 3

Jim Cole Galveston, Tx W 4

Henry Smith Galveston, Tx D 15


1899Feb 11 Jim McCormick Galveston, Tx D 7

Mar 17 Jim McCormick Galveston, Tx WF

7May 6

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Chicago, Il LT KO

4Dec 16 Pat Smith Galveston, Tx D12


1900Mar 7 John Lee Galveston, Tx W 15

Mar 20 Willie McNeal Galveston, Tx KO 15

Apr 6 Bob White Galveston, Tx W 15

Apr 12 Charley Brooks Galveston, Tx KO 2

May 1 Jim Scanlan Galveston, Tx KO 7

May 6 Jim McCormick Galveston, Tx KO 2

May 28 Jim McCormick Galveston, Tx KO 7

Jun 12 Horace Miles Galveston, Tx KO 3

Jun 25

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Galveston, Tx D 20 -Some sources report 6/28/00Oct

George Lawler Galveston, Tx KO 10

Nov Josh Mills Memphis, Tn W 12

Dec 27

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Memphis, Tn TK 14 -Some sources report 12/28/00

1901Feb 25 [url]Joe Choynski[/url] Galveston, Tx LK 3 -Both fighters were arrested after the fightMar 22 –Johnson and [url]Choynski[/url] were released from jail after each posted a $1,000 bond

And your link: [url]http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/jjohn.htm[/url]

 

Johnson is what 6' 200 lbs? Very good athlete. He beats them.

 

You are right Mendoza ,I was forgetting these ,dont know why as they are in the Book" Jack Johnson In The Ring And Out",so thats 13 more wins for Johnson then,:good

 

I stand corrected by you twice in one thread then atsch