How does Jack Johnson vs the best 160 or 168'er go?

I think Johnson was an exceptional fighter but there is no doubt his chin was not granite. His exceptional defense allowed him to dominate as long as he did ... while I'm sure it was not glass like Wlad, I think it was like Lennox Lewis, dentable if caught right ... that being said in reviewing Johnson's career one has to read between the lines. When motivated he was exceprional. Often he was lackluster.

Johnson against middleweights, a joke , right? He destroys any and all as he sees fit ..

 

Johnson was far past his prime vs Moran. Not only had he fattened up to a obese 221lb, he also had been very inactive in the ring in the past 3 years, and was extremley rusty. He was also 36 years old. Johnson's prime was 1907-1910. When Johnson went to europe in 1912, he was never the same again. He got into whoring, partying, binge eating, alchohol, depression from running from authority...he fattenned up, he got old, his reflexes and timing lost sting. Still a good fighter, but nowhere near his prime.

 

Some there think Johnson prime weight was 210 pounds, so is 11 pounds more that bad? Clearly Johnson was in good enough shape to go 20 rounds. If he was in bad shape, he does not go 20 rounds. I think Johnson was past his best for Moran, but I also feel he wasn't close to being a shot fighter.

The thing to focus on here is Moran was not that good, yet nearly took the decision. Johnson's defense did not help him, and he was in fact at a disadvantage in the out fighting. The full 20 rounds is out there if you care to view and score it for yourself. I do not think a 36 year old Louis or Holmes has a close fight with Moran.