How does Joshua hope to win rounds against Usyk, if he struggled against Povetkin?

You're the one who initially claimed Povetkin's face was damaged, as in to imply it meant anything in the first place. Povetkin has a pale skin to begin with. Meaning, even if both inflict similar / equal amount of damage on each other, Povetkin's face will show far more damage than Anthony Joshua's darker skin. Thus, you're point there becomes irrelevant. Since more VISIBLE facial damage on a pale skinned boxer doesn't prove he was more damaged than the darker skinned boxer.

Secondly, you have to prove Povetkin's face was visibly damaged from a punch. Otherwise, it's totally irrelevant. There were multiple head clashes. I haven't got the time to go through the whole fight, just to cater to your needs.

Thirdly, Wilder - Duhaupas was a fight where the darker skinned guy's face had EXTREME visible damage. When that happens, it can't be ignored. Since it's not very common for someone like Deontay Wilder who has as dark a skin that he has, to have such visible damage marks. As the darker the skin, the less visible the mark. Meanwhile, Povetkin regularly gets marked up in nearly every fight (due to his pale skin). So Joshua marking up Povetkin's face means very little.

You're committing a false equivalence! Mr False Equivalence!

I'm the biggest idiot you have ever witnessed on the internet? And you're the most obsessed individual I've ever encountered on the internet, with literal personal fetishes and personal obsessions of other online users such as myself. You've inadvertently let slip multiple times how important my words are online, and how much of a threat they pose to you, and how much you care about / value my thoughts. And how much effect my actions have on you. And how you have to mention my name to refer to me in random posts, even though nobody (perhaps other than you and your personal buddies), cares about the names of random online users.

Yup, I'd rather be an 'idiot' than be the most obsessed user online, obsessed with other random online users.

Yup, keep saying that will be the last response. I'm pretty confident you will respond again, you're obsession knows no bounds.

To confirm, there is no punch footage posted by that poster, showing that a punch actually caused Povetkin's visible facial damage.

Heydumbo was lying / mistaken / confused, most likely lying though.

 

A few corrections!

Joshua won by TKO and not KO!

Anthony Joshua also had a busted up nose. So he wasn't totally unmarked.

And I don't know what your point is with the rest of your post. Even before the fight, I gave Povetkin 0 chance at beating Anthony Joshua. I've been posting all along that Joshua would not only win, but by an EXTREMELY wide margin. That wasn't the case. Hence my criticism.

If Anthony Joshua needs that many rounds and has that much difficulty against a much smaller, much older, shot opponent who was never a REAL heavyweight to begin with whilst also fighting in the comfort of his own home, then his quality / worth as a boxer must be seriously questioned. Winning isn't good enough! What's required is a win by a super impressive margin against someone like Povetkin and that wasn't the case.

I don't need to give Joshua credit, since he didn't perform to the reasonable standard that was set for him.

If a T-REX in its prime, fights an old sick mouse who no longer has the legs, endurance or athleticism it once had. And the T-REX takes literally 30 minutes to finally kill that mouse, then that would raise SEVERE and SERIOUS question marks in regards to that T-REX's quality / worth as a fighter.

It is ANYTHING but impressive to beat an old, shot boxer like Povetkin when he's at age 39. Even less, to beat him in such an indecisive manner. If we're going to start praising today's heavyweights like Anthony Joshua for beating washed up has beens that are also much smaller in size like Povetkin, then the current era has to be seriously questioned in terms of its quality.

 

In Povektin's case, it's not just size alone, but a combination of various things, ALONG with the size disadvantage Povetkin faced against Joshua.

It's size + weight + reach + height + muscle mass + age + judges + location of bout + style.

1) Anthony Joshua had a 24 pound weight advantage over Povetkin.

2) Anthony Joshua had a longer reach than Povetkin by 7 inches.

3) Anthony Joshua was at least 4 inches taller than Povetkin.

4) Anthony Joshua probably had over 50 pounds on Povetkin, if we just go by their muscle weight and ignore weight composed of fat (which Povetkin is MOSTLY composed of).

5) Anthony Joshua was 11 years younger than Povetkin and was in his prime, whilst Povetkin was past prime / shot.

6) Judges were favoring Anthony Joshua

7) Anthony Joshua was fighting in his hometown where most of the fans were in his favor.

8) Povetkin probably had the worst style to beat Anthony Joshua's style.

These are 8 indisputable advantages Joshua had over Povetkin. When you add all of them up, you'd realize that Povetkin had no REASONABLE chances of beating Joshua. And anybody who thought Povetkin had any chance outside of a TOTAL miracle, are individuals who are either totally ignorant, deluded, lacking in logical skills or a combination of those things.

Oleksandr Usyk doesn't face as many disadvantages against Anthony Joshua as Povetkin did.

Unlike Povetkin, Usyk can fight Joshua whilst he's still in his prime. And he also has the more suitable style to beat Joshua. Usyk also has a longer reach than Povetkin and is also taller.

Size matters MOST in the heavyweight division. However, there can be very RARE exceptions where an EXTREMELY skilled smaller boxer that can negative size disadvantages. I believe Usyk falls into that category.

Usyk is an exception, unlike other small boxers / small heavyweights. These exceptions are EXTREMELY rare. And Usyk is one, because he is a very special boxer with a very special skill set / skill level. Usyk is at least 3X more skilled than Povetkin, if not even more.

 

Yes, I do blame the governing bodies. But I also blame Anthony Joshua for losing multiple rounds to a guy who had no business winning even a single round. I blame Anthony Joshua for taking more than half the fight to finish off a guy that had no business even lasting half the fight. Those things expose Joshua's quality to be severely lacking as a boxer.

A darker skinned boxer having no visible mark is irrelevant. It's less visible on someone with darker skin. Whilst a guy with pale skin will have mark that is more easily visible, even if the darker skinned guy was equally damaged.

And no, a KO isn't the same 'result' as a TKO. Hence they are different words / terms, as they describe different things.

And yes, no boxer should be considered an 'elite' level boxer after reaching that age. Beating an opponent after they are in their 40's is totally irrelevant and meaningless. And unless you're having a super easy time in doing so, then you deserve criticism.

 

No, it doesn't! Ever heard of the phrase: "there are exceptions to rules"? This is it! Usyk is an exception to that rule and not the norm. And I've explained why.

Usyk struggled against Gassiev? I didn't see any such thing. I saw Usyk win pretty much every round. That's not the definition of 'struggling'.

Gassiev has far less power than a lot of top heavies? How do you know that?

 

No it doesn't! Since that's merely an exception to the rule and not the norm.

Secondly, I've already explained that Povetkin's disadvantage wasn't just his size, but a combination of other disadvantages combined with his size disadvantage that gave him practically no chance at beating Anthony Joshua. Why are you ignoring that point? Or are you incapable of comprehending it?

Usyk doesn't face those OTHER disadvantages that Povetkin faced against Anthony Joshua.

Well, your point about Gassiev is TOTALLY, and I mean TOTALLY irrelevant, because Usyk won pretty much every round against him. Whereas you claimed Usyk apparently 'struggled'. So don't start telling me about 'axiomatic boxing knowledge', when you don't even know what it means for a boxer to 'struggle'.

Furthermore, Usyk has already faced SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS who arguably hit just as hard, if not harder than the top heavyweights of today. So I have no reason to doubt Usyk's durability.