How Does Manny Pacquiao Compare Against a True P4P All Time Great, Jimmy Wilde ?

You are showing your ignorance here, I dont wish to be rude but we are talking about the period 1910-23, Jimmy Wilde fought anything between 500-1000 bouts he started boxing at 16 in a booth, we dont have accurate records of who he fought, when he fought or the exact resumes or weights of the boxers he did fight,particularly his early fights, when he continued winning and became a star, the records of his fights become more accurate, this is the same for other boxers of his era.

One think is clear, Jimmy Wilde would have won every World title between 90 lbs up to 118 lbs and more often than not by knockout, if such titles had excisted, you like quoting when talking about Pacman that he has won titles at this weight and that weight, well 'The Mighty Atom' comparing 'like for like' would have won more, you came onto this site claiming there should be a consensous of boxing experts to decide on p4p lists, well we have the boxing historians at the IBRO and a third of them think the 'Ghost With A Hammer In His Hand' is a top 10 ATG, the other two thirds think he his a top 20 ATG, they gave him an ATG ranking of #14, you like historical importance when ranking your boxers well Jimmy Wilde was a star both sides of the Atlantic a 100 years ago, record crowds watched him, he became President of the boxers union and even had an autobiography about him in the 1920s, he was so good and so famous that they even gave him a fortune to come out of retirement.

You need to learn more about the history of boxing {and life - what the World was like pre 1st World War etc} and not be so reliant on Boxrec for your info, you have shown your ignorance by believing the records of Jimmy Wilde's first 60 opponents is 'full and complete'.

 

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Fair comment, it is difficult to compare, but that is what people are doing on this site when they say Pacman is a top 20 ATG, no matter how ludicrous it is, boxers from different generations of the 'gloved age' are compared to each other and put into a pecking order, the focus of my post is to show how good the boxers in and around the top 20 are, I picked Jimmy Wilde because he is often ranked just inside the top 20 and Pacman would need to get past people like Jimmy Wilde to break into the top 20, I could have choosen Sugar Ray Leonard or Muhammed Ali ?

 

It is a guess on your part to say Wilde's resume is weaker than Pacmans,
{it may be it may not be} Wilde fought 100 years ago, Wilde only weighed about 90 lb, the lightest weightclass in his day was 'Flyweight' up at 112 lb yet he still became World Champion and reigned for many years, in Pacmans era there are 4 World titles up for grabs at a multitude of weights, lots of people Pacman would have fought either held or did hold at one time a version of a World title, therefore it is no use you looking at boxrec and counting up the amount of World title holders Wilde beat compared to Pacman or saying to yourself I have never heard of any of the boxers Wilde has fought etc {it was 100 years ago}, the same applies to other Champions of Wildes era, also there is very little film of this era, I have only heard of one film of a Jimmy Wilde fight and that was against Pancho Villa after Wilde had been retired for 2 and a half years !

What we can say about Jimmy Wilde is {with certainty} had there been World titles at lower weights than Flyweight he would have won them all, as he was dominant up at Flyweight, if there had been four Bantemweight World titles he proberbly would have managed to have won one version of that {miles North of his natural weight}, ''in todays money'' he would have been World Champion over all the small weight classes, that is why lots of 'experts' think tht Jimmy Wilde is a P4P king.