How does Otto Wallin fare against these AJ opponents?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ShortRound, Jun 15, 2022.


Wallin beats

Poll closed Jul 7, 2022.

  1. 37 year old late sub Takam in Sweden

    26 vote(s)
    86.7%

  2. Parker (with bodyguard referee against him) in Sweden

    11 vote(s)
    36.7%

  3. Green Whyte

    16 vote(s)
    53.3%

  4. Untrained 284 lbs Ruiz in a 22-by-22-foot ring

    21 vote(s)
    70.0%

  5. 39 year old 13 months inactive Pulev in Sweden

    17 vote(s)
    56.7%

  6. 39 year old Povetkin in Sweden

    9 vote(s)
    30.0%

  7. 41 year old 17 months inactive dethroned Wlad in Sweden

    5 vote(s)
    16.7%
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  1. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I suspect that Finkel is correct...I knew it was an Alt after just a couple of days of posting and called it out as such....
    Who has Wallin beat to make the Op thinks he walks through everyone else?
    He gave Fury a tough fight but I suspect Tyson rolled straight of his couch and didn't even bother to train for that one...so it means nothing.
     
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  2. ShortRound

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    In the immediate aftermath of AJ's loss to small European southpaw Usyk, an amazed Whyte (who thought they'd rob Usyk and give it to AJ by SD) said "f*ck this, I've got my own sh*t to handle". His "sh*t" being Otto Wallin. He knew at that moment that if AJ didn't get the decision against Usyk after getting outboxed, he (being a far smaller star than AJ) may not get it against the big European southpaw Wallin.

    Had Whyte been especially worried about an injury he wouldn't have scheduled a fight in the first place, initially he said he wanted the inactive glorified journeyman Jermaine Franklin or a post-Ruiz, 2 loss streak, 41 year old Chris Arreola. Whyte had never fought a southpaw of any note and 6 weeks to prepare for a good one in Wallin was taking a huge risk. So fearing a very possible (and in my opinion likely) loss 10 days out, Whyte canceled the fight.

    Wallin didn't struggle at all with Sokolowski: how much damage did Sokolowski do? An out of shape Wallin beat him in 1st gear. And even before Wallin cut Fury in the 3rd, the fight was competitive. I know people don't like Breazeale because Wilder flattened him in 2 minutes but he's AJ's 8th best win and Wallin outlanded him almost 5:2, winning 10-2 away from home by consensus. Wallin showed more in the Fury fight and the Breazeale fight than the likes of Takam, Parker and Whyte have shown in their whole careers.
     
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  3. ShortRound

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    Molina is a bit like Helenius or Browne, except without the Indian summer in his career. He could turn up and try to win for 8 or 9 rounds and not look that bad or he could hit the canvas early and decide to stay there. We've seen it time and time again.
     
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  4. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not really, all OP did was list their ages and the context of the opponent at the time AJ fought them.

    The only thing you could argue was excessively negatively worded was “bodyguard ref vs Parker” but even that has truth to it, the referee broke them apart every single time and didn’t let either man do any work on the inside.

    Everything other than that was 100% objectively factual.
     
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  5. ShortRound

    ShortRound Active Member banned Full Member

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    It wasn't just the fact that the referee didn't allow inside fighting, it was that by constantly breaking up the action he was giving the notoriously stamina-challenged (especially in those days) AJ a breather.

    Had I done a post on Wilder's opponents I would have mentioned that Wilder had a "bodyguard doctor" against Ortiz the first time. This is just an accurate assessment of the A-side dynamics at play in these fights.
     
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