How does Pac defeat the Shoulder roll defence of FMJ?

I agree man, honestly.

Pacquiao is flying at the moment, but Mayweather will beat him fairly easily IMHO.

I think Floyd will actually stay in front of Manny, hands up in a conventional boxing guard and expose Manny's defensive flaws.

His jab is literally going to win the fight for him. I saw Manny eat enough Cotto jabs to suggest everytime Floyd throws it, it's gonna land.

I don't see Floyd stopping him, but I see him taking a UD.

I think people are also underestimating Floyds power and strength, he's quite a strong fighter, and when he needs to sit there and punch, he will.

His timing is impeccable, thats the key.. he throws when he knows he's going to land, and there are opportunity's to do that against the Pac Man.

I see Manny forcing the fight, and Mayweather waiting and picking him off, literally on Mannys 1st or 2nd punch, thus halting the 5 to 6 punch combinations he throws.

I see ... counter jab, counter jab, body work, body work... counter jab, body work .... slowly breaking Manny and frustrating him.

That's my take.


SnR

 

By picking the most advantageous weight to have the fight at.

 

dwyer has a good video on tihs

 

Floyd's chin is definitely underrated.

 

Some of you guys need to study that style. Floyd can use the shoulder roll ONLY to evade the RIGHt HOOK of a southpaw.He won't be able to do it against the power hand of Pac which is the left.

However, he will still be slippery. For example he can slip the straight left of Pac by leaning to his right (without shoulder roll) and then come back with a right of his own. Pac has to set a very face past, throw combinations and outhustle Floyd. His power will keep Floyd reluctant and on the defense and he may outhustle Floyd. .

 

I agree . This is the second scenario if Pac doesnt just blow him away.

 

Pac isn't Superman. If he eats enough clean counters they will take a toll. Nobody walks through Floyd's counters. The only person who came close was baldo whose chin is iron who took flush shots from Forrest at lmw and he could crack and didn't flinch.

 

That's Corley not Ndou. Corley is a quick southpaw counterpuncher with a decent counter right hook. That's the only reason I linked the video. The difference between Corley and Pacquiao is a half inch in height and 1.5inch from armpit to the fist. Not a huge difference by any means. Pacquiao is also far more aggressive and talented.

Zab Judah also landed the same counter right hook over a jab or right hand (don't remember which) so it isn't like Floyd has developed a way to stop it. You can't exactly devise a way to avoid being beat to the punch. Especially when that counter comes over the shoulder roll (and you can't see it).

Manny will hold his own in the center of the ring. The only way he doesn't is if Floyd gets on his bike and stays on it the whole 12. Either way, he will not win a decision being in run mode for 12.

If Floyd opens up Manny will find him in between punches, if not outright beat him to the punch.

You know, it's easy to say that Floyd will use lateral movement to make Pacquiao keep stepping. What happens however when Manny turns out to be just as fast on his feet as Floyd ? It ends up being a vicious cycle of Floyd moving, Manny right behind him and Floyd getting no work done. The guy, imo anyways, is going to be way too fast for Floyd to just outmanuver. He can do that kind of thing against Baldomir but Manny is much, much better.