How does Pacquiao beat Floyd part 2? Rational answers please.

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  1. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    I already made a post on this, and Pac supported said, he out works Floyd with volume, angles, power, Floyd has never seen a fighter like him etc. I've always said Manny's weakness was fighting a good, disciplined technical fighter and once again I was proven right. He was practically shut down tonight. Really, what chance does he have against Floyd? Marquez was brilliant and Floyd handled him with ease. Based on tonight, what chances does Pac have, seriously, Rational answers please. I personally believe the Marquez vs Pac !!! fight gives an insight on how a Pac vs Floyd fight would be. PAC showed Marquez lots of respect and didn't walk him down like he does those other "brawlers" that he face. Would Pac not show Floyd the same respect?
     
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  2. MetalLicker

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    What is a rational answer to you? Telling you want to you want to hear or you opening your mind to what people are saying? You're already coming into the topic with bias. You'll look at other points of view with dismissal. It doesn't matter what I say, because you won't believe it.

    And what I say is this. It not how you fight, but how you react. Floyd is not JMM and he is not better than JMM at everything. JMM has now fought Manny for 36 rounds. Floyd hasn't gotten within 10 feet of Pac.

    In that sense, JMM has 24 rounds more rounds of experience, knowing everything about him. What does Floyd know...nothing yet, because he has no experience.

    And Floyd does not react well to getting hit, compared to JMM. His chin is weaker. He does not counter every punch. He is not aggressive. And he does not counter in combination like JMM. So as much as you'd like to believe that Floyd is better at everything, he really isn't. His mind is weaker as is his will.
     
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  3. Popshots

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    Just like I thought, PAC supporters are tongue tied with no rational. I like Manny, but I'll answer it for you. He beat FLoyd with a gift decision.
     
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  4. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    I have said this **** time and time again that Floyd can neutralize Manny with his jab, footwork, timing, accuracy and Ring IQ. People get Manny's foot speed confused with his foot work. He has great foot speed but his foot work is average. ANY Person who has ever boxed before knows that you take away angles with foot work. That is how you steal the angle back and Floyd is the master at that. Manny needs a knockout to beat Floyd and that is all there is to it. Floyd vs Manny would look just like the Mayweather vs Marquez fight.

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    [/QUOTE] Look at Manny right here coming straight in and hopping around. All JMM is doing right here is using footwork and Manny's lack of foot work against him.
     
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  5. bballchump11

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    by breaking Mayweather's right hand with his face
     
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  6. jmmpbf

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    :good... and Floyd also knows how to move hes head down and away from the punches.. which Marquez doesnt really do.
     
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  7. yagbols

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    I don't know. You should ask Floyd Sr. He said he doesn't want Jr to fight Pac because he fears for his son's life.
     
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  8. nuges

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    Never thought manny could beat floyd, which is why I didnt understand why floyd kept trying to run from the fight, even though i knew he would never fight manny...but maybe after today you never know. Like you said, if manny had any chance of beating floyd it would be to greatly outwork him.. but based on his last couple fights, I don't see that happening at all. Right now I see it, if these fighters want to fight it has to be the next fight. Both Floyd and manny are declining already..we need to see them before they're shot.
     
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  9. boxinger

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    the same way he beat marquez,

    boxing intelligently and good defense and movement
     
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  10. Popshots

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    Well, from what I've seen I believe most Pac supports don't have the ability to be rational which is why I ask for rational answers and sometimes I'm suprised. Clearly Marquez was robbed, but some are still delusional. To you sir its emotional to me is financial. If I believe Pac has a chance in hell against FLoyd I'd be on his bandwagon.

    Wow so your rational is "what does Floyd know...nothing yet, because he has no experience":lol: So you are saying in order for anyone to know PAC has a weakness against technical fighters they need to go a few round with him? Sir non of use have been a round against either fighter which is why we watch and assess them. Floyd definitely know what we all know and its not "bias" as you say but fact. Every version of PAC has had trouble against a technical Marquez. In fact as Pac became more refined in his skills, he had less success against a fighter of Marquez caliber as show tonight.

    "Floyd does not react well to getting hit, compared to JMM" How many times has Floyd been on the canvas compared to Marquez? Secondly, Floyd rare gets hit clean. The other statements were absolute outrages and you are the perfect example of the lack of rational I was talking about. You said Floyd, "mind is weaker as is his will." You clearly don't know boxing.
     
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  11. Popshots

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    Look at Manny right here coming straight in and hopping around. All JMM is doing right here is using footwork and Manny's lack of foot work against him.[/QUOTE]
     
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  12. Popshots

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    So after tonight's performance I'm not asking Floyd Sr. I'm asking you. Sounds like to me you have no rational way of supporting PAC. He clearly failed the test (no pun intended) of beating a technically sound fighter in Marquez.
     
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  13. Popshots

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    Did you watch the post fight interview with Arum. Its not so much FLoyd "trying to run from the fight", but a promoter holding it up as well as Floyd's legal issues. We all know PAC doesn't speak for himself, just listen to any of his post fighter interviews. I believe the refusal to test was Arum's idea. Arum was speaking about a May 5th fight with Marquez I believe which totally shows you Arum has no confidence in his fighters chances of beating Floyd. Why fight Marquez against, and hopefully so called boxing fan would be smart enough no to order it.
     
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  14. Popshots

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    In which fight? It certainly was not on November 12.
     
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  15. MetalLicker

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    Like I said, you're ready to dismiss everything.

    And if you think Floyd has the will, the balls, or the mindset of JMM; you don't know **** about people or boxing. And you clearly don't know **** about personality, which is why in your delusional head that you believe he is better than JMM at everything.
     
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