How does Pavlik Beat Martinez?

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  1. Mr. HU

    Mr. HU KP vs BHop anniversary Full Member

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    :lol:

    What up Bro!!!!!!

    I've been good just can't wait to see this Pavlik/Martinez fight!!

    I love to emphasize!
     
  2. King Leonidas

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    Oh for **** sakes it's clear as DAY that Williams is quicker.
     
  3. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Which is 'quicker'. One of Williams' looping shots or Pavlik's straight right? Kelly did quite well in the ams and you don't just bully your way at that level. I count "quick" as the time you think about throwing until it lands and I don't count meaningless arm punches.
     
  4. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    A couple things.

    For starters, Bernard Hopkins was a very solid 175lbs when Pavlik fought him. Pavlik is a 1-2 guy true enough, but most of his pressure is about wearing opponents down with that 1-2 and pushing them off. He's a physical opponent.

    Pavlik just could not move Hopkins. He was the proverbial boy against man that night.

    Now looking at the Martinez fight, Pavlik is clearly the bigger man in this fight. He's clearly going to be the stronger man in this fight. So all of the things Pavlik does well will be in his favor.

    Martinez has to be fast on his feet and avoid the pushing and shoving around. He also has to avoid the inside brawling that Pavlik is good at.

    If he can't do that and gets worn down like he did by Paul in their fight he's going to get stopped. Pavlik is much stronger than Paul and will punch right through Martinez if he gets the opportunities. As basic as Pavlik is, he punches hard enough to warrant a concern. He's good at what he does and against smaller opponents or weaker opponents he does it to perfection.

    As far as I see it, I think Martinez makes good on the foot speed and hand speed for a few rounds but tires and starts getting pushed around by Pavlik. Pavlik will sweep the late rounds on that note, possibly stopping Martinez late.
     
  5. booradley

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    Nice post:deal
     
  6. StreetsOfGold

    StreetsOfGold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After what old man hopkins did to pavlik you honestly think martinez will struggle ? martinez is serious business and as for pavlik one of the strongest middleweights ever lol @ that.

    Martinez will counter and land crisp fast clean shots on pavlik whole fight martinez via tko or ud.

    If it's in ohio pavlik ud.
     
  7. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    Where is the vbookie thread on this fight?
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Martinez fights nothing like Hopkins, and I mean NOTHING like Hopkins. The difference is night and day. It is so obvious that even Martinez said he gleaned very little insight from watching Pavlik/Hopkins.

    It is quite laughable, and indeed, ludicrous to expect a TKO for Martinez. Pavlik has fought at least 12 guys who hit harder than Martinez. Sergio is NOT a puncher, but Pavlik is double tough, and has a very good chin. Silly prediction.

    Exactly 1 out of 37 opponents succesfully countered Pavlik for 12 rounds. Martinez will have some success in the first 3 or 4 rounds. After that he'll get the **** beat out of him everytime he gets in range.

    Kelly Pavlik eats small middleweights who have leaky defense and questionable stamina. That is all Martinez is, nothing more.
     
  9. NoHomeJerome

    NoHomeJerome Boxing Junkie banned

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    pavlik is the atg middleweight! he's gonna have no problem with this cab driver. pavlik got missiles in both hands. pavlik ko1.
     
  10. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    as to the question, with his fists? mainly by bludgeoning him into unconsciousness
     
  11. truushot

    truushot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Um... Martinez has a 1 inch reach advantage.
     
  12. Hermit

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    On paper maybe. I'd need to hold the tape measure myself on that one.
     
  13. Mr. HU

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    Pavlik is a "Bad Robot"
     
  14. Jorodz

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    he may be one dimensional but that one dimension is pretty impressive
     
  15. zorryt

    zorryt Active Member Full Member

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    Martinez will ko Fakeliv easy, I will be rooting for Martinez after all Pavilik lost on purpose against Hopkins only because Golden Boy gave him a lot of money that sucks, Pavlik must be defeated at all cost.