How does prime Pacquiao do against these prime fighters at 147lb

Pacquiao is not beating Jose Napoles.

 

Great post, very well stated & just like you said if there's one guy who you don't bet against that is Prime Pacquiao!

 

There's a reason Roach and Manny passed on Crawford.

 

Hearns DID get into a dogfight at 147 w SRL. The best comparison for Hearns approach v prime Manny would ofc be Duran and that seemed almost unfair. Nonetheless Manny was a special fighter and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of observers watched a superfight between these 2 in awe and possibly even surprise.

Manny was never hurt by a taller and/or longer fighter because they were taller or longer but he always had trouble w counter punching which Hearns did have a little bit in his arsenal but he liked to lead from what I know (which is limited as I am not intimately familiar w Hearns).

I never said Manny beats Hearns outright. I am merely saying I dont think its a given just because of physical advantages. Yes, Hearns was exceptional and wholly imposed his game plan on to a similar build fighter in Duran, but Duran and Manny fought very differently. Duran (from what Ive seen) liked to stalk more and get rugged inside while Manny preferred to blitz attack and move which emphasized his advantages...of being smaller (less to hit) and faster (again, Manny had very underrated foot speed - dont think Ive seen faster actually). I think it would be a fight

 

Pac gets put into a coma by hearns he's probably the worst stylistic nightmare he could possibly face at 147.

 

JMM could never have spared SRL and Hearns hit harder than any fighter Manny ever fought, he stopped middleweights, he also stopped a light heavy.

 

Pac against hearns would eat a right hand early he'd taste that power and either look to only survive the rest of the fight or get knocked out going out on his shield. He's not beating hearns, I wouldn't favor any ww of this era or the last era to beat hearns. If hearns was boxing today he'd be #1 p4p hands down.

 

You don't seem to he able to comprehend styles apparently, Leonard "walked down" Hearns by fighting flat footed because he was getting totally out boxed. How in the world is the much smaller Pacquiao going to walk down Hearns he doesn't fight flat footed.

Again your also missing the point Hearns didn't willingly fight a dog fight vs Leonard, he was forced to because Leonard had to take a huge risk by fighting flat footed and aggressively coming after Hearns.

5'5 67 inch Pacquiao isn't going to do that vs 6'1 78 inch Hearns.

I also find it funny you don't think Duran/Hearns isn't good comparison, when infact it's a far better comparison than any of the other examples you've gave in this thread. I think it actually perfectly illustrates how a smaller ATG couldn't deal with Hearns's much bigger height and reach advantages the same problems Pacquiao would have.

Isn't it telling that your pretty much the only one on this forum that believes Pacquiao/Hearns is competitive, I guarantee you make a poll right now and you'll see your opinion is a very very small minority.

 

No coma here, but Tommy wins, probably by KO.

You're putting a guy who started out at 106 against a guy who finished up at 190.
Too much size difference .


Also, Tommy beats Floyd as well, again probably by stoppage.

 

Tommy beats every welter from this era and the last.

 

I believe he does.

I would favour the Pac of 2009-2010 over ANY version of Napoles.
Too much speed and movement, IMO.

 

I'll add, Tommy beats SRL six or seven times out of ten.

 

Loses to most if not all
Certainly doesnt have a winning record

 

That's fine. Fights happen that defy odds all the time. Look no further than Spence Crawford or Floyd Canelo or Donaire Rigo or Froch Bute or Cotto Maravilla or Pac DLH. The list could go on and on but the point is fights dont always play out in real life the way they do on paper.

Anyone who picked 1 sided beatdowns of the aforementioned fights would've also been laughed at and taunted in addition to being in the very, very small minority.

Pac Hearns would be a fight and not a repeat of Duran.

 

I am not as familiar with Hearns as others but his record is padded with dozens of journeyman and fringe contenders. In his fights versus contemporary greats he was basically split w losses against Hagler and SRL and wins against Duran, Benitez, Virgil, Roland, and Shuler. Am I missing other impressive wins?