How does prime Wladimir Klitschko do today?

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Aside from Wlad being way more skilled than Bootleg Dorticos, a way better boxer, a way better technician with way better footwork, possessing one of the best jabs the HW division has ever seen - a very powerful and accurate jab that he could ram into his opponent's faces with both force, consistency, and precision, one of the most powerful right hands the HW division has ever seen, an equally powerful left hook, either of which he could put you to sleep with in the blink of an eye, being very athletic, possessing both fast hands and feet and being way more coordinated, and having fought way better competition, way more world champions, former Olympic and World Amateur Championships gold, silver and bronze medalists than Bootleg D. Wlad already paddled his ass in the gym with big gloves and headgear on.

    Only one of them hit the canvas in those sparring sessions and it wasn't Wlad.


    Wlad knocking out Bootleg D a couple of times, or bare minimum dropping him 2 or 3 times and hurting him numerous other times, has been confirmed by James Ali Bashir, Javan ''Sugar'' Hill (''Wlad hurt Wilder very badly''), Andy Lee, and Dillian Whyte, who has spent time in the Klitschko brother's camp, is adamant he's seen footage of Bootleg D being knocked out more than once in sparring, and Johnny Nelson also said it's one of the worst kept secrets in boxing that Wlad KO'd Bootleg D twice.

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    In a real fight Wlad takes Bootleg D out in HL reel fashion whenever he wants to because he brings way too much to the table than the one dimensional low skill can crusher from Tuscaloosa who has only beaten two world class fighters in his 43 fights (and only 2 world champions 1 of whom had been shot for aeons), one of whom was a couple of weeks shy of his 39th birthday for their first fight (Ortiz) and whose best win is Bryant Jennings, second best a 45 y/o Tony Thompson or Malik ''Scuba'' Scott, and the other was 36 y/o for their first fight (point being Bootleg D has never beaten a world class fighter who was under 35 y/o) whose best win is pudding Arreola and his second best is a way past it 40 y/o Ray Austin who was schooling his ass for most of the fight, the same Ray Austin who is widely considered one of Wlad's worst title challengers even though Wlad fought a four year younger version of him, sparking him out in 2 rounds without (and quite intentionally) throwing a single right hand for the entire duration of the fight after Austin had mocked him for only having a right hand lol
     
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  2. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    I can see how he's more aggressive in that he's more likely to recklessly wade into an opponent if he sees they're hurt, but unless someone's putting it on him or he sees an opening he's actually pretty tentative.

    As for faster, no. Wlad's handspeed was blistering in his prime, and his timing and technique meant it was extremely hard to avoid his shots once he unloaded. Chris Byrd was one of the greatest defensive heavyweights of recent years and he had a torrid time avoiding Wlad's shots. He was getting lit up every time Wlad threw, and this is a fighter who made a speciality of making big men miss.
     
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  3. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Totally agree.
     
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  4. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only problem is you are comparing a prime Fury against a 40 year old wlads reflexes were much faster in his prime. 40 year old Wlad made fury run from the rematch.
     
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  5. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad had over 65 fights and was never KOed with 1 shot
     
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  6. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True, Berbick doesn't have Ali's number or McBride doesn't have Tyson's number
     
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Imo he's faster.

    Those 3 all suffered knockdowns against him as well, two knocked out.

    If Wilder is koed he will lose by ko.

    His power keeps him in the fight.

    I think it's more.
     
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Dunno, genetics or training i guess.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I know
     
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  10. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Yes, I think you may be right there.
     
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  11. BoxingFacts

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    I think Klitschko would be dominant during this era, AJ would of had no chance, Wilder would get severely schooled and Fury would probably get out boxed but I still think Fury might of had a chance
     
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  12. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love it......so journeyman Purrity, Pro Heavy Bag Brewster and the Flash in the Pan Golfer are superior to Wilder......unskilled caveman Peter and glass chinned Touch of sleep had WK on the canvas.....went on a track meet against the heavyweight fraud of the decade David Pinky Toe Haye......carry on , WK is the best except he was waxed by genuine C level ham and Eggers in his PRIME.
     
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  13. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He has addressed it because he ran from a badly out of shape six foot nearly three hundred pound featherfist? Joshua will be taking regular trips to the canvass the rest of his career.
     
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  14. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, but Wilder isn’t faster than Wlad. More aggressive I could agree but that’s down to recklessness not natural killer instinct, Wlad has edge there too.
     
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  15. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Yeah, quite possibly. Wlad's right hand was a monster too. I remember going into the AJ-Wlad fight having to explain to people that AJ was NOT the puncher in this fight at all. But, Wlad was Wlad and you're right in that he would coast at times.
     
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