How Does Robinson Deal With Leonard's Speed and Reach Advantage?

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  1. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Robinson had perfect timing and accuracy. That beats speed.

    The question is how does SRL deal with Robinson's speed?

    However, their hand speeds are so close that we are arguing inches here.
     
    Mr.DagoWop, Jul 19, 2017
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  2. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Be like gavilan fight
     
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  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fact is this, whatever Ray Leonard could do, Robinson did it better
     
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  4. Eddie Ezzard

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    Italians tended to be slow plodders didn't they? The likes of Pep, Pastriani, Canzoneri, Dundee, Janiro, Loi, Benvenuti....

    Do you seriously think Robinson would fail to win a belt today as 'there are so many talented welters up to middle'? To quote a poster who said 'there's this thing called the internet', why don't you use it and have a look and see how many professional fighters were active in the 40s and 50s and compare that to now?

    Seriously, if you are going to make a statement that Ray Robinson couldn't win a belt in today's shark-infested welter and middle weight worlds, you're going to have to do a lot better than that last post.
     
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  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    You mean Pastrano Eddie? Still, I love your post:thumbsup:
     
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  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Amen.
     
    red cobra, Jul 19, 2017
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  7. Eddie Ezzard

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    Cheers red
     
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  8. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Leonard is great, Robinson is pound for pound the greatest of all time.
     
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  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Robinson was slightly taller than Leonard but more importantly he was more rangy. He had the ability to close distance in a way that was uncommon. He was explosive with those Left Hooks. Sugar Ray could be gliding backwards stop on a dime and rip 3 or 4 hooks off like nothing. Not many fighters had that ability. Roy Jones and maybe Ali in his younger days.
     
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  10. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Robinson, eras again. I prime Robinson in the 80's? A prime Leonard in the 40's. Versus a prime Leonard in the 80's? Versus a prime Robinson in the 40's? Next thread...
     
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  11. slash

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    turn up the power.
     
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  12. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    It's not easy to directly compare ATGs from different eras. You have these same comparisons in all sports and for me the answer is always the same. They were ATGs in their time and there isn't much more to add.

    However, if I'm pressed I would say that SRR would 2 win out of 3 fights if they fought. I tend to think that SRR was overall just 0.05% better than SRL which makes all the difference at this level.
     
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