How does the Classic Forum Rate Pacquiao in an all-time P4P sense?

I would like to say that i rate Mayweather's win over De La Hoya more than what i've seen others do.

 

Generally, I like your lists, very much on the point most of the time :good

 

Mosley would stop Ortiz at 135 though, just too much power.

 

I want to see what Manassa has to say to that. If he thinks that Ortiz actually has a chance against Shane Mosley h2h at 135 pounds then i'm afraid my respect for him as a poster has fully departed.

Modern day nutrition mate, modern day nutrition.

 

Oscar DeLa Hoya hasn't impress me in years. What is it that makes him so impressive going in to the Dec.2008 fight with Pacman, apart from his size ?
Surely not beating Steve Forbes ? Maybe a win over Mayorga 2 1/2 years previously ? (..... and Mayorga was no longer anyone special to beat).

Dont mention the Mayweather thing again, that was a joke of a "fight". A fraud.

Yeah, those were interesting factors. Just not enough to justify people saying "Oscar kills him", or anything like that, IMO.
I'm not going to apologise for thinking Pacman would beat him before it happened, or for thinking the size thing not an overwhelming factor. I gave Pacquiao full credit.

Pacquiao's a great fighter, no question.

 

Okay i was ****ing around with that Mosley ****, doing a McGrain on Manassa. Looking for a response but i've got to go out now. So that was ****.

When have you ever seen me string the words 'modern, day, nutrition' together in a post??!! Haha

 

Oscar still had pretty good speed and a nice lefthook. Why was the ODLH fight a fraud? I thought it was fairly legit, and a lot of people felt ODLH was competitive against the worlds P4P best. I didnt, but a lot of people did. The way Manny beat ODLH was a lot more impressive and one sided compared to Floyd as well.

 

I didn't see it

 

The DLH-Mayweather thing they didn't really fight.
They made sure no one got hurt or bruised in there.
Y'know, they like to look good in the post-fight photos.

It was an exhibition at best.

 

Yea and I bet you picked Douglas over Tyson too. What a bull**** artist you are

 

Would be easier to judge this if Ortiz fought Napoles

Shane was a freak of nature at 135 aswell with all that speed and power. But in a way its not quite fair setting up a final fantasy fight with someone who uses/abuses the 24hour weigh in system to come in the ring at 160lbs in LW fight, all things being equal he wins

 

You'll see i was only kidding there PP.

 

Not really because Mosley would be at deaths door in the ring, he really needs a day to put the fluids back into his body. Make the fight at 140 with same day weigh in, Mosley still wins for me without the size advantage

 

And Ortiz wins.