How does the Classic Forum Rate Pacquiao in an all-time P4P sense?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Nov 15, 2009.



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  1. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He was ripped up as well, head to toe.
     
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  2. Gesta

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    Did Stonehands pick Pacman Vs Oscar?, if so thats a big pick.

    Stonehands is one of the best posters here (your not to bad yourself McGrain).
     
    Gesta, Nov 16, 2009
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  3. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lower half of the top 15 about. Could be top ten.
     
    Dempsey1238, Nov 16, 2009
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  4. McGrain

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    He did pick Pacman v Oscar, yes indeed. And thanks, but I had De La Hoya!
     
    McGrain, Nov 17, 2009
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  5. trampie

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    :good
     
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  6. trampie

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    :good
     
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  7. trampie

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    :good
     
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  8. asero

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    how can they be equal in ability when JMM lost atleast 5 rounds each to barrera and john. Care to explain?

    pac lost only once in his 23 rounds of domination to barrera
     
    asero, Nov 17, 2009
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  9. McGrain

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    They'd be equal because they were equal.
     
    McGrain, Nov 17, 2009
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  10. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    destroying a prime barrera is not equal to escaping with a win over a past-prime barrera
     
    asero, Nov 17, 2009
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  11. namcap

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    This is the same reason im biased for modern day fighter and it also because my age is not 120 yrs old. I rate a certain boxer based on what i totally saw not because he has 200 w 10 L 5 D and its a century ago.
     
    namcap, Nov 17, 2009
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  12. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Escaping with a win? Hardly. I wanted Barrera to win that fight, and he could have won that fight, but he didn't and it wasn't close. Sure, most of the rounds themselves were competitive and MAB got ****ed on a 3-point swing when he lost a point and lost credit for the knockdown, but JMM won the large majority of rounds.

    MAB was just unwilling to do what he needed to do in order to win.

    That said, I get the point you were trying to make. I just don't think "escaping with a win" accurately depicts what happened by any stretch of the imagination.
     
    Rumsfeld, Nov 17, 2009
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  13. bodhi

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    Well, but looks can be deceiving. I like facts. And out of the records, which are fact, you can extract the resume, longevity, dominance and accomplishments.
     
    bodhi, Nov 18, 2009
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  14. asero

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    it was a close and classic fight. though, i had JMM winning by 1 point had the referee not robbed MAB of a 10-8 round. Barerra clearly won atleast 5 rounds in that fight.
     
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  15. Flea Man

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    Pacman didn't look so great in the 2nd Barrera fight himself IMO
     
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