How does today's Super Flyweight Division compare with that of the 80's?

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  1. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Super Flyweight has always been the most talented of the Junior Divisions, in my opinion.

    Today, Super Flyweight holds some of the most talented, skilled and courageous fighters in the world. Today, many a talent or favourite have passed through or competed here for long stretches of time.

    The same is true of the 1980's period.

    If you were to compare the class of the division and individual fighters, what would you say? For example, which era has the best fighters H2H? Resume? Greatness?

    Today we have:
    Juan Francisco Estrada, Kazuto Ioka, Jerwin Ancajas, Kal Yafai, Donnie Nietes, Carlos Cuadras and Srisaket Sor Rungiviasi, alongside strong contenders and former champs like McWilliams Arroyo and Chocolatito, among others.

    In the 1980's period, we had:
    Gilberto Roman, Khoasai Galaxy, Jiro Watanabe, Santos Laciar, Payao Poonterat, Rafael Orono, and Chul Ho Kim, alongside strong contenders and aged but still good fighters like Shoji Oguma and Gustavo Ballas, among others.

    With this in mind, what are your thoughts?
     
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  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    JK, I will try to answer later but it is always more difficult to contrast a current crop against the past of any era.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

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    It's a great thread, and I look forward to reading the replies.
    But that probably means you'll get 24 at the most.

    I'll have a think and learn about some of the guys from the 80s, then I'll have an answer.

    Although SSR is my favourite here.
     
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  4. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    24? You are very hopeful!

    Anyway, both have very similar levels of strength and great fighters. I think 80's has the best fighters individually / H2H (like Jiro and Roman) but I think the current era actually succeeds it in terms of competition etc.
     
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  5. Jel

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    I've got to be honest, I don't know enough about the current era to compare.

    The 80s was probably the peak of the division (unless you rate the current one higher, of course).

    But I'll wait to see what other more knowledgeable posters have to say...
     
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  6. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    YEAHHHHH. THAT BLOOD JUST CONTINUES TO BE THERE NO MATTER HOW HARD I SCRUB......
     
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  7. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Thread on page 2 already. No wonder the others gave up.
     
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  8. JackSilver

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    It was strongest when Gonzales was still at the top and Inoue was still in the division.
     
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  9. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Anyone?
     
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  10. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    For those interested. Some highlights I found on the mentioned fighters.

    80s

    Gilberto Roman

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    Jiro Watanabe

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    Khaosai Galaxy

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    Santo Laciar

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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Current

    Kazuto Ioka

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    Rungvisai

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    Carlos Cuadras

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    Chocolatito (115)

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  12. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    80s super flyweight greats
    Rafael Orono
    Gilberto Roman
    Nana Konadu
    Gustavo Ballad
    Jiro Watanabe
    Khaosai Galaxy
    Jiro Watanabe

    Today's crop
    Estrada,Yafai, Chocalitito, SSR. Chocalatito stands his ground with everyone above. SSR and Estrada a level below and yafai is an absolute joke. The 80s were better.
     
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  13. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Id like to know who people think is the best 80s fighter mentioned.
     
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  14. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Watanabe IMO.

    But Roman had the best run in the division and deserves to be ranked number 1.
     
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