How easy/hard a night does Duran have with the De La Hoya who fought Mayweather?

Duran goes tot he body and break Hoya down

 

Don't think he has an easy time at all. Duran never carried anything above 147 good to me overall and lost too much of his speed, reflexes and fluid movement to jab, feint, weave his way inside and maintain an optimal work rate. Oscar was pretty rigid himself, but I give him a much better chance here than at 135-147 to control distance and keep Duran on the end of it.

 

Both guys lost something by the time they stepped up to 154. Provided its Duran of, say, the Moore fight, he should win pretty comfortably with counters and inside work. DLH gets busted up a bit, but is competitive pretty much all the way through.

 

Duran ballooned to 215 prior to Hearns, so yeah.

We're talking about a completely different person on a fight-to-fight basis, so that always needs to be kept at the forefront of our minds. And imaginations. :good

 

I agree with pretty much all of this. the duran of the moore fight would win but Oscars size advantage and jab would make him pretty competitive

 

Is it just me or is it Night and Day comparing 147 Duran to the 154 incarnation (even more extreme looking at 135)? People say I use it to levy excuses for him, but really, he didn't look even half the same fighter to me. I think even mentally, all the steam had come out for the most part. He still had the skill and technique, but his natural attributes to me played an enormous part of how dominant he was within his style and are sold short when assessing him. Just look at him Move... He was dizzying with his fluidity, constant feinting, catlike quickness and and reflexes. All of it so absurdly natural that he never even needed to think. I would abhor the idea of having to deal with this man in the ring.

 

well said

the 135 version is very different at times stylistically from the 147 version and both are well and far different from the 154 version. styles, skills, etc there are very distinct (but all lovable) durans. the 154 version was spectacular really for only one fight ive seen. it could barely muster winning a round against benitez. in the end, by that stage he couldnt close the distance to neutralize movement and jabs like he could before. he reliedcmore on traps and a fighter likr oscar, never the brightest, would fall for them BUT odlh's physical advantages would make it very tough

 

BOth fighters were significantly dimished by this weight, but Duran looked the better fighter in his showings against Benitez, Cuevas and Moore compared to Oscar of the Mosley and Vargas fights.

Duran that fought Cuevas\Moore vs Oscar of the Mosley\Vargas bouts should have the significant edge in upper body skills\slipping and countering to beat Oscar at ring-centre in a boxer-puncher fight and DLH doesn't really have the legs or stamina to stick and move effectively enough to just outpoint him from range and take advantage of Duran having lost much of his footspeed imscar would also get roughed up and dominated in any close range exchanges, though he does have the mobility still to stop that happening much until the latter portions.

A comfortable decision or late stoppage(probably via Oscar retiring on his stool or being "knocked out" by a bodyshot when he realises he can't win on points anymore)for Duran is my reckoning.It would be a good close fight for 4-6 rounds, then Duran's greater technique and possible dirty cheating would start to tell.

Oscar would beat the fat out of shape Duran that turned up against Laing and Batten easily.Probably be favourite against the immediate post-quitting one that fought Minchillo and Nino Gonzalez too.

IN other words if it's not a particularly hyped fight and a non-title bout i'd put some Money on Oscar, but in a big fight, which let's face it, it's almost certain to be.Duran would be up for it and be too much.Oscar is no Benitez at 154.

 

matters if Oscar uses his jab and moves. If he stands in front of Roberto he would lose.

 

De La Hoya abandoned his jab and faded in that bout. Duran is no fader and would handle Oscar for a comfortable UD.

 

Good breakdown, it'd all be about what Duran turned up & what was on the line. It's a bolted on certainty that if a title was up for grabs then you'd see Duran issue a beating on Oscar. If a motivated 37 year old Roberto can come storming back & deck a monster like Iran Barkley then i give Oscar no chance. Oscar is to stiff & rigid, he'll get beat up.

Even in that Moore fight i thought Duran looked chunky in comparison to how he looked when he stepped up to fight Hagler, if he did'nt respect the opponant he was as we know a lazy fat ****er at times & just went though the motions.

 

Not easy but he wins

 

Agreed.

 

I think the Oscar of the Mosley/Fernando years still had some legs under him, so he would cause some issues to Duran for at least the first half of the fight before Duran starts to close in and his greater mid and close range ability comes to the fore. I'd bet on Duran winning an 8-4 or 7-5 type fight against that Oscar.

The one that faced Mayweather with no legs to speak of would be a sitting duck and would get ko'ed within 8 rounds in a one sided beatdown verging on DLH/Pac.