How effective is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu against wrestling

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  1. Wisdom

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    How effective is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu against wrestling (greco, freestyle, ect)
     
  2. The Spider

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    It depends as much on who the fighters are as the styles they bring. The early days of UFC proved that.
     
  3. James23

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    Depends on what style of wrestling and both of their relative experience and if the wrestler knows anything about BJJ in the first place.
     
  4. achillesthegreat

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    Jits finishes fights. Wrestling doesn't really.

    It all depends on how much they adopt the other style. Wrestling as a base is probably the best in all of MMA.
     
  5. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    as it stands you can survive in mma without good wrestling but if you arent clued up on jiu jitsu and what to expect from it then you are ****ed.
     
  6. Wisdom

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    Hey Rusty, would this guy be a good instructor, what you think of him ?
     
  7. James23

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    Eh, I understand where this sentiment comes from, and yes, at the highest levels of competition it holds, but other than that it's not really true.

    Particularly against someone with even as much as a good amount of martial arts training (obviously sans grappling) and even a decent high school wrestler will have them in all sorts of hurt. Unless you're someone who is remarkably resilient you simply can not withstand the physical pressure they'll place your body under (from various positions and holds).
     
  8. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    A carlos gracie black belt? yep he seems like a great teacher.
    hes from my camp actually. gracie barra.
     
  9. Wisdom

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    so you rate highly, ok thanks
     
  10. Wisdom

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    hey Rusty how effective is Jiu Jitsu with its escapes against a quality wrestler ?
     
  11. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    jiu jitsu has no peer in this regard. trying to hold down a good jiu jitsu player is very very hard.
    In fact this is one of the catch 22s of jiu jitsu. being a defensive art by nature it requires patience and timing which can lead to passiveness when on your back. not always a good thing in the 5 minute windows of an mma contest.
     
  12. horst

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    Ask Chael Sonnen.
     
  13. Wisdom

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    so a good Jiu Jitsu artist should be able to defend & escape against any wrestling style ?
     
  14. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    absolutely. provided theres no ridiculous weight disadvantage or your not being penned in by the cage or a chair etc..
     
  15. Wisdom

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    ok thanks,

    just been hearing of alot of people saying that Jiu Jitsu artists struggle getting out when a wrestlers is on top.