how effective would the lighter heavyweights be today?

Yes, we need to talk more about my experience in the gym.

Here is me and my buddies a few years back showing off our fitness. I still have my fitness logs from back then if you are interested.

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I think Dempsey could, but I really can't say for certain. He seems to have the right sort of frame for packing on useable muscle weight. Walcott I reckon would be a CW today. Same with most of the other fighters mentioned. Jack Johnson might be able to bulk up his core (he seemed to be a bottom heavy fighter) and it might well improve his clinch-wrestling style of fighting. Marciano I think could pack on the muscle mass easily enough, but it would affect him detrimentally as a fighter.

 

You have very pert buttocks. I'm mildly aroused.

 

Tyson was a short heavyset kid but remember he participated in the Olympics in the under 200lb weight limit and where he lost in the box-offs to Henry Tillman...Cus had him in training at a very young age and brain washed him that he was going to be heavyweight Champion of the world, Tyson always had power but Cus gave him belief.....but he did fight in the under 200 class trying to get into the OLYMPICS

 

Holy was around 205 for Douglas, Bowe I and Foreman and well under 220 for both Lewis fights. Lewis and Bowe are two of the very elite Superheavies si it makes me think the TOP smaller guys from yesteryear would still go ok

 

The key word is today. Not very is your answer. Here’s a good rule of thumb. Skilled super heavies with power almost always beat smaller opponents who are not power punchers. Exceptions to the rule would be an injury, or bad judging.



On a fair score card Holyfield is 1-4 vs. Lewis and Bowe.



If you want to use modern examples Adamek was completely outclassed by an olderVitali Klitschko. Byrd was badly beaten twice by Wlad, and was lucky Vitlai was injured. Chambers hardly won a round vs. Wlad. Hide lasted less than 2 rounds vs Vitali. Haye was scared of Wald. Jones would never fight Klitschko, and Toney wisely declined a chance for a title to meet Wlad, and then took a fight for less money and no major belt.



I don’t see how any of the below names, with the possible exception of Dempsey would have a realistic chance of victory. And I say this because Dempsey had great power, good mobility, good speed, and enough reach ( 77” ), and took the fight to his man. Out boxing super heavies with skills since 1990 is very rare. Only Bowe lost one decision and it was a razor thin one at that. Lewis, and Both Klitschkos never lost a decision.

 

I think it is certainly possible for a lighter heavy to get a bauble. However, as it did with even a great fighter like Holyfield, fighting giant, powerful dudes every time out will make for a rocky and uneven stay at the top. The wear and tear, the x factor of power, not only in punches but in the clinches and other action, and the durability make for formidable obstacles for a smaller fighter to overcome every time out. It would be something like Usain Bolt giving his opponents a 3 meter head start in every race. He is still going to win most of the time but it would be too much to win every time.

 

My short answer was: in nearly all cases, not very effective.

Your post was a good, longer answer :good

 

Well i don't think size matters as much as none of the fighters wanting to actually fight!, they just do the bare minimum which makes one fighter look alot better the Klitschkos for example, it's not competitive cause they don't even try, maybe if they got in better shape and weren't walking statues and tried to bring the fight to other fiighters it might be better

 

I will throw a couple of observations out there.

Although the super heavyweights are on a bit of a roll at the moment, they are still relatively few in number. There have been four super heavyweights who have some sort of claim to greatness, and two of them are from the same family.

Outside of Bow Lewis and the Klitschko's, are the rest of them really much better than the Carneras and Buddy Baers of the past?

Are the aforementioned four the vanguard of a new breed, or just a cluster out outliers?