How exactly would you define “Domestic Level”?

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  1. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    A fighter who is good and one of the top fighters in their country, but not say, top 10 in their division?

    Something to do with the historical perception of U.K. fighters? I don’t quite get the meaning.
     
  2. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The domestic level IMO would make them a local level type fighter for example within the U.S. this could be regional circuit or in the 80-90's ESPN/USA level a journeyman but not world level as in a contender
     
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  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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  4. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I don't know, Coetzee is a national fighter who seems to keep cropping up just below the front rank from about 1983-93. Maybe Niellsen too. His record is quite good in sheer numbers but when I go through the names I hardly recognize any.
     
  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I looked it up in the dictionary and there was a picture of Herbie Hide.
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    It's someone who is not a factor among the world title contenders but ranks high among the boxers of his own country.

    That's it.
     
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  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    It's changed a lot over time. When travel was harder, domestic champions really meant soemthing, at the very least amoung the best i the country, now it's either a stepping stone or a step below fringe world level.
     
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  8. Tin_Ribs

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    I'm regional level. Them regions being the bathroom(after dark), the loft and the bit of the garden where the weeds flourish and the cat shits. Pugilistic gaffer of them regions, everywhere else not so much, more of a mucky spit bucket. I love my wife.
     
  9. Tin_Ribs

    Tin_Ribs Me Full Member

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    The psychological reason is that my eyes are painted on, dude. I'd never even noticed. Off now to find a picture of a pig licking a battery. Or a boxer! A boxer sounds better. Will a picture of boobs make me a banned Tin_Ribs? Because boobs are even better than boxers and I care not how good Durans defensive radar was.

    Sorry Thread Stealer.
     
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  10. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hahahaha, I think you need to re-think on this one.
    Carl Frampton, 2016 Fighter of the Year and 2 weight world champ, still rated top 2 in his division and with a win over a top 10 p4p fighter is domestic level?.... I've heard it all
     
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  11. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's basically guys who are capable of winning against the guys outside the elite in their division.
    So not recent world title challengers, or near future ones, not obviously, world champions, but guys who are the best of the rest effectively, in the same division, in their country.

    Some names would be, Sean Dodd, Luke Blackledge, Dereck Chisora would be that level now, although he has been above it in the past.

    Guys who are above journeyman level, and some of the best of the rest in their country within their weight, but more than capable of taking losses from journeymen and also sometimes a slight chance of beating guys who are above domestic level.

    They generally aim for British title fights and remain around that level, but can rise above it for a period while in their primes maybe, before coming back down or whatever
     
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  12. Tin_Ribs

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    Unfiltered domesticity in stream-of-consciousness real time. Saad54 is going to be edgy to the point of medium twitchy eye if he comes in here to quote his fivers worth. Serious website Boxed!
     
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Different definitions in Britain and US. In Britain it's guys who fight for the regional belts (English, Commonwealth, British) and lose above that level. Guys like John Thaxton, John Murray etc.

    In USA it's more a journey man type fighter, guys like Carson Jones, Edner Cherry etc.
     
  14. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This ^^^

    it has changed through time and now it's become like Unforgiven & Luf have said, which was not at all the case in the past, in fact it wasn't a commonly used phrase then either.
     
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  15. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie

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    Sam Sexton is an example of domestic level