How far declined / shot was Brock on the night he fought Cain?

You know what Flash, I apologize for this comment and I take it back. This is unfair and untrue. You're right that people can be entertained by whatever they want, and who am I to pass judgement on them for that. I see this is the case.

However, I'll argue forever that loving MMA and thinking pro wrestling is manure is not in any way contradictory. It most certainly is not. :nono

 

Ken got a tonne of respect, he just ****ed it up by not giving it back,, living in the distant past, and making himself look like a fool on the ultimate fighter. editing or not, everyone on kens team say he was pretty useless as a trainer, and from what I saw I would concur,( "I hate jiu jitsu, im a leg lock guy", and bringing in a roided up body builder as a nutritionalist)

 

I would like to see that dude come at you and see if you dont run from brock!!!lol

 

That's cool. :good

 

This is absolute fantasy. Pretending to get hit doesn't physically deplete you. If that was the case, merely working hard in the gym would leave guys a "shell", even if they never fought.

Probably because they aren't. They are actors, and in all fairness most of them are on PEDs that they wouldn't be taking if they were involved in a bona fide athletic event. You stop being called an athlete when you leave competitive sports and make your living through acting.

 

:good

 

I dont know but if a legend MMA fighter likes Pro wrestling as well I guess it is possible to compare the two. But thats just my guess, I'm in no business of swaying people.

 

He wasnt :deal

He'd long been over his ilness and just beat Carwin in a fight were he was essentially battered for most of a round , he was off the " in his own words " , the best camp of his life .

Velasquez exposed a one dimensional fighter simply because he could match Lesnar's wrestling ability and is / was on the night stronger / quicker / technically superior and fitter !!!!

Velasquez beat the best version of Lesnar available , very easily

 

I both agree and disagree with you:

 

I agree with that post 100%

 

I like the use of probability:0% chance of Lesnar having deteriorated physically, after a potentially fatal medical episode in which he was bedridden in hospital for two weeks. A very sure mind there.



The rest of the post is somewhat plausible.Though you seem to be agreeing with Haggis in the part highlighted below and contradicting your first sentence.

 

Let me preface this by saying, pro wrestling ****ing sucks and there isn't anything remotely interesting about watching two roid heads pretend to roll around and beat each other up. In fact, it's such an abysmal form of entertainment that I automatically question the intellect of anyone who could find that garbage remotely entertaining.

That being said, pro wrestling is VERY damaging to the body because the bumps and spills they take are real and instead of getting time off in-between performances, they're on the road doing their act every night. Because they don't have time for their bodies to recover most of them end up hitting the booze and the opiates pretty hard and in addition to the roids they take to look so menacing it ends up being a prescription for death or a completely crippled body for many of them.

 

Dude like i said , Brock " in fighting terms " was long over his ilness and in condition to fight Cain Velasquez , Brock Lesnar does not have the skill set to defeat Cain Velasquez , Velasquez is better in every single department of the sport of MMA , Brock Lesnar is a flawed 1 dimensional fighter , and Velasquez and Carwin proved it , as did Randy Couture in parts of there fight , he relies solely on his size and weight advantage coupled with his top game , if he doesnt have that , he's cooked :deal

You can list all the ilnesses you want , i didnt hear him complaining in the build up to the fight or after the fight did you ??? , quite the opposite actually , he stated himself " i had the best camp of my MMA career , and was doing things in training id never done before " , does that sound like a shot fighter , or some sort of walking infected colon to you ??? , it doesnt to me .

I have to partially agree with Popkins that i do concur that Lesnar would of been a little rusty in terms of sharpness and ring rust , but he had lots of momentum at least in terms of his last outing and the quality of his training camp pre Velasquez , im not buying into it one eyota that Lesnar was not physically at his best for the Velasquez fight :deal

In my mind Velasquez demolished the best version of Lesnar available at that time , and Velasquez would demolish any version of Lesnar because he has his number in every single department of mixed martial arts