How far from peak were Manny and Floyd when they fought?

Please discuss. Thank you.

 

A way. But I think Pac's style lost more than Mayweather's by ageing

 

Despite being older, it seemed to me that Floyd was closer to his prime than Pacquiao. 2 years before the fight, Floyd dominated Canelo.

 

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Both well removed, I would argue Floyd far more than Manny though...

Floyds like B Hop and Ward.. his style is based far more off timing his opponents and keeping a solid defense .. those are skills that older fighters can still max out, because they don't require the speed and stamina that comes with your prime (although it can be argued Floyd relied on reflexes, which is a young man's attributes).
Casuals like to call Floyd a runner, but I always challenge them to find me a clip of Floyd running in a fight, and they mysteriously go silent.
Floyd was less mobile as an older fighter 35+, but he still maintained a superb defense. He employee his own rope a dope and used it highly effectively, especially against some of his most dangerous opponents.
That is a true sign of an evolving defense and a true sign of greatness. As far as Floyd's actual physical prime, I would put that way back sometime around the Hatton fight, which was 6 or 7 years before he fought Manny.

Manny on the other hand had a more classic sense of prime. He relied on speed and mobility. I think Manny's prime may have been at the lower weights, I think may be the David Diaz fight, I think that was 135, but you could also argue the Miguel Cotto fight....I guess not that far off in terms of Floyd's prime..

The tricky thing with Pac, all the casuals immediately called him washed up after Floyd basically dominated him, but Pac went on to do great things after Mayweather, fighting nearly another decade, winning more belts, and defeating young upstarts. He really didn't start looking washed up till his last handful of fights.

 

It is debatable but what i do know that it was a terrible fight

 

2011 against Victor Ortiz was Floyd’s last peak fight, although he already had hand problems.

Pacquiao’s last peak fight was probably 2011 against Mosley.

Pac had more left when they fought. Floyd was older and was losing his legs, power, and punch output.

 

One fighter has 72 fights , the other has 50 .. There's a reason SRL waited 8 years to give Hearns his due rematch, waited on him to be shopworn ... Same as Mayweather did with Pac ... How long have you people been following the sport ?

 

One guy had about 100 am fights, mostly at the top level, and the other guy, who is two years younger, didn't fight am. Put the booze down.

 

Bradley II and III were among Pac's best wins and bracketed the loss to Floyd.

 

But I like to drink .. Are you an AA guy or something? the draw , the shot caller , passed on the fight in 2010 , they turned pro the same year. and one was significantly lighter than the other ,, again 1 guy was active and fought all comers , the other not so much and cherry picked, and if you are bringing up am fights to protect your guy ,,, well that's all we need to know here, right ?

 

I'm saying it's a chore to even read these posts. Mayweather didn't really pass on the fight. Pac refused extended testing, but really Arum was blocking the fight in order to maximize Pac's career earnings (and he ended up being correct). Pac turned pro at age 16. When Floyd was 16, he was winning the Golden Gloves at 106 pounds.

Floyd fought better fighters overall from 130-154. He even fought Hatton, Oscar, and Mosley before Pac and when they were more relevant. He beat Marquez easily before Marquez would ko Pac at the same weight. That isn't cherry picking.

 

As others mentioned Floyd was closer to his prime than Pac-Man. Floyd purposely waited out Pac until he saw him start to slip-up, there's a reason he did everything to avoid fighting him in 2009-2010.

Granted I'm not saying Manny vs Floyd in 2009 would have a been a definite win for Manny but it would have been a much more entertaining fight.

 

Pac had some good wins after the fight, Floyd didn't. He seemed to know he was close to done at top level.

 

Floyd has the style advantage over Pac .. EVERYONE knows that ... but when you are the draw , the shot caller , its nice to be "Conveniently" on vacation or retired and come out when you want .. Pac fought all thru it ... so whatever ... so ?? you never por a drink and log on ? cmon man