How far is Lomachenko from being as great as Floyd Mayweather?

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Lomanchenko and mayweather greatness and skill level

  1. Lomanchenko no where near mayweather level

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    43.0%
  2. Close but not mayweather level

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  3. Roughly equal

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  4. Lomanchenko is slightly better

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  5. Way greater and more skilled

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  1. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are forgetting the amateur record . 400-1
    Now many void IV fans will say "this is pros man..."
    It's still the same sport son....
    Those 400 - 1 fight and two gold medals mean more washed up DLH, one arm paq, or ndou? Who the **** is he...

    Mayweather couldn't even scrape a bronze in the Olympics :pipi
     
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  2. PistolPat

    PistolPat Active Member Full Member

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    So 4 rounds with head gear is the same thing as 12 with no headgear?

    If they were the same, why did he struggle so much against a war torn Salido who was nowhere near his prime?

    Put any of the guys in Loma's 400-1 record from amatuer straight onto the pros against the Pac that fought Floyd. None of them are conditioned to go 12, Pac would beat every one of them dip****. Washed up DLH & one arm paq are better wins than any of Loma's pro wins.

    The same one armed Pac that Loma got offered to fight but didn't take it because he would get flattened.

    Washed up DLH would lay out Linares just as easy as Cano. The same Cano that lost a decision to an even more shot Mosley. And don't bother with the excuse that he was punching above his weight class ( Linares was struggling to make weight and needed to move up). Also, always had a chin made of glass and after Salgado never once dared mention Uchiyama (the top dog at the time) who would have laid him out with the first punch that landed.

    Ndou was a good prospect that retired due to a brain injury.

    Many believe Floyd was robbed at the Olympics vs Todorov. The referee even raised Floyds hand after the match. Emil Jetchev, (chairman of the international referees' and judges' commission) was forced to retire after that fight. And has been under several suspect matches.
     
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  3. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Truth is Loma spent too much time in the amateurs to ever approach Floyd’s pro career resume. The best of Loma was probably left in the Amateurs after 400 fights.

    skill wise Loma is best I’ve seen offensively but he is already past prime and his dimensions are small. He can’t move up in weight as effectively. I would not be surprised to see him lose in the next two years.
    Floyd was awesome but the career Path model he took was irritating. He clearly was more business man than a guy in it for the glory. You don’t wrap your career up with Berto and Conor Mcgregor. He also has the IV scandal and the weight draining clauses etc. It does leave him open to criticism beyond his impeccable record. That’s not to say he didn’t have heart of a champion Floyd absolutely did and he proved in the Castillo rematch. And time and again when pushed or irritated Floyd could show what a beast he was in the ring. He just used leverage better than any fighter I recall outside the ring during negotiations.

    amateur career Loma
    pro career Floyd
    Skill wise equal
    More fun to watch imo loma
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    This is 100% true. No doubt he was more offensive minded in the lower weights.

    The problem is this one liner doesnt capture the whole picture, it omits some details.

    Yea Floyd was more offensive minded in the ring back then. But he also took far more punishment back then. Due to a different style. He potshot, clinched, and fought more negatively at 147. Against mostly old geezer competition.

    When he opened himself up more at lower weights he got nailed. Look at his fight against Castillo. The 2nd half of the fight hes getting his ass kicked. Even against Augustus hes getting hit hard.

    So they assign Mayweather at 130-140 with 147 Mayweather defense. To create this supernatural amazing fighter. Which is just not true.

    Loma at 130 was more offensive minded than Floyd was there and took less punishment.

    He beats Mayweather at 130.
     
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  5. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unfortunately Lomachenko hung around in the Olympic style boxing world too long.

    If he had gone pro after his first gold medal, who knows what sort of resume he could have had by now.
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pbf is too big for loma and hit too hard for loma at 130. The pbf who fought chico would destroy loma at 130 a weight in which he's seen as the GOAT at.
     
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  7. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    I dont think Mayweather lands enough clean shots to stop Loma. He will rock Loma a couple of times, but wont land consistently flush enough to stop him.

    Mayweather doesnt hit hard enough at 130 to just take out Loma with a couple of shots.

    Look at how long it took him to stop Hernandez and Gatti. When DLH fought them they were immediately in survival mode after 1 round.
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Oscar fought hernandez at 135 not at 130 which was his best weight. Pbf is arguably one of the most accurate boxers in history he would land on anyone. Linares dropped loma with a straight right hand a punch pbf is a master at throwing and his straight right is light years better than linares
     
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  9. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    Linares is one of the top 3-5 most skilled fighters in the world. He just has a pure glass chin and body.
     
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  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Stop! That's like saying Khan is one of the top 3-5 most skilled fighters in the world.
     
  11. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    Hes far more skilled than Khan....
     
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  12. Pimp C

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    They're about the same level honestly and both usually come up short when they step up.
     
  13. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    Yea cuz they have pure glass chins. Linares has all the skill, more than Khan. Just about anybody will tell you that.
     
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  14. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pimp, no one destroys Loma at 130lbs. Floyd, moreover, would have had a hell of a time dealing with Loma's footwork and ability to constantly change levels (bending, straightening etc) and angles.

    That said, I believe Floyd would have earned a hotly contested decision (quite possibly a split decision) victory primarily because of his length and reach.
     
  15. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Momento mori Full Member

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    Not even close but he can't make the jumps up in weight like Manny and May