How Fast Floyd Can REALLY Adapt...

I have kind of lost interest in this, because we are poles apart here and I can't see how any resolution will be reached. Still, I'll list where I think you're wrong:

- Floyd was an overwhelming favourite vs Judah & Baldo, you are falsifying events to suit your agenda

- Mayweather may not have had the single-shot power of Judah and he may have been slightly slower, but he had advantages in pretty much every other facet you can think of. Just a vastly superior fighter, and always was

- Mosley was dire against Cotto, that was a real off-night, he didn't land many full-blooded shots cleanly on Miguel. Mosley most definitely hits harder than Judah

- Of course how good Judah is has importance with regard to Floyd's approach in that fight, of course it must. I don't know if you've ever boxed, but of course it is easier to change your style against an overmatched opponent than it is to change your style against a very dangerous and difficult opponent. Once again, I don't understand why I'm having to explain this, it's just so obvious. It's far easier to hunt Zab Judah or fight in the centre of the ring vs a bloated, blunted Juan Manuel Marquez at ww than it is try and drive Jose Luis Castillo backwards at lw, and walk him down, isn't it? The reason why Ray Leonard had ATG adaptability/versatility was because he could hang in the pocket for 15 rounds with the greatest swarmer/infighter of all-time Roberto Duran and because he started out being hunted by Thomas Hearns but eventually became the hunter - changing your approach in big fights with extremely dangerous and high quality opponents is proof of great adaptability, walking down a disintegrating Zab Judah really isn't, the guy has crumbled vs more or less every top boxer he has ever faced

- I didn't say that Pacquiao turned into a slick sweet defensive counterpuncher vs Larios, but his approach in that fight was different. Up til that point, Pac would always lead, always try to get his shots off first. After the 1st fights with Marquez & Morales were so close, Freddie obviously wanted to start making Pac into a more cerebral fighter (which he undoubtedly now is), and against Larios it was striking that he wasn't coming forward all the time, wasn't trying to bulldoze Larios, wasn't trying to get off first. He was quite clearly waiting for Larios to act, then he would react, it was notably different. As I said, Pac is not a versatile fighter, but he has unquestionably evolved and developed into a far more refined fighter over the past few years. Watch Pac-Marquez 1, after the 3rd KD he unleashes EIGHT identical 1-2's in a row trying to finish JMM off - he would never do that now, no way

- Floyd can't adapt to any fighter and beat them their way, that's BS, because he quite clearly failed to beat Castillo at his game in their 1st fight, and ran to victory in the 2nd fight. How exactly in the 2nd Castillo fight did Floyd beat JLC at his own game??? :huh You're talking BS, another Mayweather cheerleader

- I don't believe Floyd will adapt to Shane Mosley. I think he will come out with the intention of running and boxing on the backfoot to get the decision, and he will carry that plan out, and he will win, because Mosley no longer has the legs or the stamina to match him in that kind of fight

- Pac didn't lose to Marquez twice though. Neither of those fights was as convincing a win for Marquez as the 1st Floyd-JLC fight was for Castillo. I had Pac by 1 point in the 1st fight, I think I had Marquez by 1 point in the 2nd, I can't remember exactly but there were 1 point margins in it either way. I had the 1st Castillo fight to JLC by 2, as I think most people did.

- You can post videos til next year if you want, I can't watch them now, I'm in my uni lab and the computers don't have flash player. When I'm at home, I'll post videos to show what I mean. Floyd fought Castillo on the ropes for much of the 1st fight, he ran in the 2nd and tried hard not to fight on the ropes. That's why the 1st fight was exciting and engaging, and in the 2nd the crowd were booing and the HBO team were critical of Floyd



One point I will leave you with, is: in your mind, if a defensive counterpuncher catches and hurts his man coming in, and once he sees him hurt, goes on the offensive trying to finish him off, has he "changed styles"? Has he successfully "adapted" in this fight? That seems to be your problem.

 

atsch and why do you think he wasnt throwing it?

 

Once again you fail to read what I have said. Did you not get the Ali vs Norton reference, do you not understand the stylistic advantages Judah had on Mayweather? From his speed to his ability to nuetralize the shoulder roll?

Judah is faster. Judah is stronger. Stronger 1 punch power. Mayweather is a superior fighter because he is smarter then Judah, he even said it himself referencing Judah. "I know the mistakes he makes, and he doesnt, thats why im better?

:rofl Off night. Watch the first 4 rounds against Collazo, and the whole fight against Mayorga. Mosley had an off night because he was up against a fighter who he couldnt time, who had head movement, who wasnt a come forward slugger.

Still Mosley did catch Cotto clealy a few times, had him stunned late in the fight. So if Cotto says Judah hits harder, I have to believe him.

Mayweather has been changing his style his whole career, adapting to every opponent in the ring. Judah was no different. Judah was dangerous, a counter puncher, a south paw with mean power who caught Mayweather flush more then I've ever seen him caught in those few of rounds.

Yawn. Marquez was 6lbs over what he fought Diaz at. Marquez has never been a fighter based on quickness and speed, he's about timing, he couldnt time Mayweather like he timed Pacquiao because Mayweather is a better boxer then Pacquiao and can see those punches coming.

Why would Mayweather walk down a brawler. atsch Watch the 11th round please, Mayweather and Castillo trade on the inside, and Mayweather gets the better of exchanges. The round that won him the fight on my card. that too his adaptibility. Mayweather stood in the pocket and got the best of the best lightweight of his era.

Which fight are you talking about? The first fight? You do realize taht Duran was a lightweight and Leonard was a natural welter? Which is pretty much the same excuse you made for Marquez vs Mayweather dont you? Not only that but Leonard lost. And had to get on his bike and clown to beat Duran the 2nd time.

Hearns boxed Leonard that whole night. atsch

Leonard needed to get inside and trade with Hearns. It wasnt in the game plan, it was last second desperation. "You're blowing it kid" Leonard had to go after Hearns or he was going to lose.

You fool. Didnt I just post 2 videos that showed that he fought basically the same way both fights, only difference was the fact that he wasnt injured. :rofl You're a clown. I cant believe you wont even acknowledge the videos I posted. Be a man

Btw, Mayweather did beat Castillo at his own game. See round 11.

I guarantee you that Mayweather lays alot of leather on Mosley, and while he will box and get into many close quarters scraps, at some point Mosley will get Mayweather in close and I predict Mayweather to dominate him on the inside.

Depending on how you score the 1st round, you could have Marquez the winner or Pac the winner. If you score it for Marquez, Marquez is the winner of the fight.

In terms of up in the air type decisions, Mayweather vs Castillo and Pacquiao vs Marquez are about the same, difference is Mayweather beat Castillo decisively the 2nd time, something Pacquiao couldnt do.

Wrong. He fought basically the 1st fight and the 2nd fight the same. Little difference to his strategy. If Mayweather fought Castillo on the ropes it was because Castillo was cutting him off better, and not getting stopped in his tracks by MAyweathers jab like he was in the second fight. Most likely because of the injury. A healthy Mayweather was the difference in the 2 fights.

And the crowd was booing because Castillo couldnt catch Mayweather like he did in the second fight. If Mayweather wouldnt have been hurt plus adjusted to the weight better they would have been booing in the 1st fight aswell, because Castillo wouldnt have caught him.

Nothing to do with what I said or what I mean. Again, watch more Mayweather fights. Watch how he dominates on the inside, outside and inbetween. Watch how his style basically switches per fight to match his opponent. Watch how he may change tactics completely mid fight. Thats adaptibility.

 

Judah wasn't thinking and not consistent and that's why he lost against Mayweather. He had the skills and speed to beat mayweather.

 

Great analysis in the video. Floyd is IMO the best at adaptin when he has to.

 

Floyd is very adaptive....its just that people would rather say the opponent just stopped doing something or the opponent gased instead of giving a fightr their just due. And thats for any fighter really....Pac included people rather shyt on the opposition rather than give the got dayum credit.