How Good/Bad was Jones Jnr against Calzaghe ?

Jones Attributes

Power- 8
Speed- 10

everything else.....damn near zero

he's pretty much as shot as he can be, and you say that beating a #6 contender should move you up?

ok then...

JMM beat the Champion of the LW division

and Pacman beat a Champion of the LW division

so either way, based off of they're last fights alone it's still

Pacman
JMM
Calz

 

jones would have KO'd dawson on the night.

 

He was okay. For a 39 year old "shot" fighter, fighting against a top 5 p4p fighter who throws 100 punches a round, he did well.

Still, he has no legs or movement (for a consistent period of time, anyways). Roy never just stood in front of a guy and blocked punches using his guard, not firing back with anything (which is what he did for pretty much every round from the 3rd onwards). The first time he really started to do this was in Tarver 1.

There's just no way a prime Roy lets Calzaghe off the hook in that first round.

With energy and jump in his legs, consistant movement and workrate (and this is being very ungenerous to a Prime Roy, but still); a Prime Roy's most obvious two ingredients would ALWAYS be just to much for any version of Calzaghe (and I think that was proven in the first round of their fight, to be honest) - and that's speed and power.

He'd simply control the fight from the get-go

 

Dawson beats this version of Jones quite easily.

 

I would tend to agree.

 

BTW in case anyone hasn't noticed this is a debate that has carried over from another thread.

This has nothing to do with Roy Jones' performance, this is actually the OP trying to make a case for Joe Calzaghe to move into the N0.1 spot P-4-P based off a victory over the aforementioned shot Roy (obviously didn't get the point in the other thread when his argument was battered to nothing).

NOT A ****ING CHANCE.

Some posters may have Joe at No.1 already; I don't agree with that, but I ain't gonna argue with you. However, I think even you would agree that a win over Jones does not warrant any major upward movement in Joe's status.

It was a money fight, pure and simple.

Also, LHW isn't the deepest division in boxing. Having Roy listed at 6 pre-fight doesn't say much: its pretty **** poor outside the top 5.

 

We all know it, but some won't admit, that Jones was a mere shadow of his former self.

 

Was he though ? or was he simply fighting bums back then ? his only 2 good wins are pot shot victorys againt hopkins and toney other than that wtf did he ever do ?

 

He performed about as well as I expected. I didn't see him knocking down Joe, but I thought a few rounds would be closer.

The thing that has been extremely apparent in all roys last three winning efforts is his stamina is terrible. His speed and power are still good, as are a lot of other things, but he can't let his hands go properly. He can only fight in spurts before needing a lengthy defensive breather. Against a swarmer lilke Calzaghe he was always going to be outmatched.

 

Unify..... win the heavyweight title.... come back down and defend it.....
Virgil hill (broke his rib with one shot)..... played pro basketball and defended his title in the same day..... the good old 7 left hook combo..... olympic gold (got robbed but was given gold years later)......a good long run as Ring P4P #1..... and lets not forget when he beat up that 40 year old cop:bbb

 

Don't forget the hands-behind-the-back KO of Glen Kelly; to hell with the calibre of opponent that was just an amazing punch.

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I absolutely hate RJJ but as a fighter you have to give him the respect he deserves... he was great once but that was a long time ago. RJJ fought Clazaghe like the #6 ranked LHW that he was, good but not great.
When he came back from HW the starch was gone from him because of the drain, against Calzaghe it was age.
No, beating this version of RJJ does not warrant a jump over Pacquiao or JMM in the P4P rankings.

 

James Toney said it right. He said Jones was scared to throw punches which in addition to his diminished reflexes made him lose pretty convincingly IMO.