How Good/Bad was Jones Jnr against Calzaghe ?

James Toney said it right. He said Jones was scared to throw punches which in addition to his diminished reflexes made him lose pretty convincingly IMO.

 

I agree with that. And then there was the upper-hook that destroyed Griffin, the compubox round against Pazienza where he didnt land a single punch, the rooster move against James Toney.... ha ha, Ruiz's nose whistling in the post fight interview after Jones broke it.

As far as the fight with Calzaghe, Jones wasnt too bad compared to other fighters. Scoring that knockdown changed his gameplan and didnt help at all. Calzaghe was too fast, strong, and busy and looked impressive battering Ol' Roy. Truth is Roy was never the same after coming down from heavyweight. Jones in his prime would have dominated Calzaghe in theory.

 

NOBODY could have stood in front of Jones with his chin hanging out in RJJ's prime. NOBODY.

James Toney tried it and RJJ came from halfway across the ring to knock him on his ass.

 

Jones should of fought a top 10 Lt Heavyweight after Tito.

 

His power was a 6 tops! The shot that hurt and dropped Joe was a forearm. Other than that his punches looked weak. Calzaghe stuck out his chin and Jones hit him with a 2 punch combo clean, and it had no effect...even his power is gone. This is the guy who KO'd Griffin with a lungin, long left uppercut from the outside And now he can't even hurt a guy with a clean, flush left hook-right hand????

 

Jones still has speed in his arms, yes. But he has lost all the speed in the rest of his body. No explosive speed in his legs or torso...which is the practical speed needed to get into position to land shots and avoid counters.

 

I think your argument just completely negated your premise there...

 

How?

The only reason that shot dropped Joe was because his forearm hit his face.

 

This was a good preformance from "THIS VERSION" of Roy. He did what he could against a guy who is one of the best in boxing right now..P4P. I actually predicted that Jones would pull off the upset....aside from the 1st two rounds I was sure of it....but Jones slowed, began to fight like a man who is 40. Taking nothing from Joe...he won fair and square. But a prime Roy wouldn't have been beaten....the fight would have ended early and Joe wouldn't have been undefeated anymore. Jones just didn't have the speed, the mentality or the reflexes to combat at this age against someone like Joe.

 

I think it was the power behind it that put him down. If forearms inherently did that much damage calzaghe would have about a 95% ko rate.

 

Joe can remain at # 2 behind Manny ..And after (Godwilling )Manny ends the career of the Golden Boy their will be no doubts !!

 

Of course there was some power behind it, he's over 180lbs and a professional boxer. But relative to the rest of the division, Jones was NOT punching hard that night. And if you get hit with a "forearm" rather then the padding of a glove...it hurts a helluva lot more! The left hook-right hand combo I was speaking of was in the 2nd round I believe. 2 hard, clean power shots right on Calzaghes face with no effect.

 

He fought good in the beggining but the cut really slowed him down.He still held on and fought with a heart.

 

Debatable about the glove (if only because the forearm was kinda glancing), but whatever. I do agree that he looked like **** after the 2nd, but I saw Roy moving him back, especially with the lead straight right to the body. Why he stopped that is beyond me, as it seemed to be working a bit. Overall though, yeah he was totally beyond what he used to be.

 

jones was pretty bad on that night but against trinidad he looked so much better.