How good could groves have been?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by smithshaun, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 23, 2008
    He did well to recover from the Froch fights and become a world champion.

    Had a good career and made a lot of money.

    I actually thought he’d have a better career than he did when I was following him early on. Was so happy when he beat Degale.

    Had a world class jab and right hand. Wasn’t the toughest in terms of taking punishment but that was made to look worse by the fact he’d tire and look ragged in the later rounds in high paced fights. Had serious balls and heart though.

    Talent wise he was at Froch’s sort of level but didn’t quite have the same career or signature wins.
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  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Whyte #CLEARED like I said he would be Full Member

    Jul 31, 2018
    I don't know what to say really, I mean what held him back? I guess he could have fought a different fight in some of his bouts... but he always gave it everything, was dedicated... honed his craft.

    He will always be one of my favourites. Pleasure to see him work.
  3. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

    Mar 17, 2006
    Not having a top level experienced coach for big fights me. He was small margins away from being up there with the best in the world gave Froch fits in the 1st fight. Lost the 2nd then beat some good but not great fighters. Again with out a top level coach lost V Jack and then same again really beat some good opposition but no one great.
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  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Whyte #CLEARED like I said he would be Full Member

    Jul 31, 2018
    Fair assessment, guess thats what seperates a lot of the champions from the 'could have beens'... you can train super hard... but without the right management...
  5. Turpins chin

    Turpins chin New Member Full Member

    Aug 29, 2019
    Another great thread
    Personally a massive fan of groves. That doesn’t necessarily mean I think he was the best.
    Think the way he jabbed was unbelievable. The fight with froch obviously made his career to an extent but probably took something out of him. Was dead chuffed when he became a world champion. I must say I like it when he’s a pundit, always find him thoughtful and well reasoned
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  6. smithshaun

    smithshaun Active Member Full Member

    Oct 20, 2013
    Some great points and hard to argue with any. Imo I just feel he didn't quite full fill his potential he had everything needed
    Great heart
    World class power
    World class jab
    Great movement.
    He was also incredibly spiteful.

    Unfortunately for such a novice in terms of fights he came up against an absolute freak in froch!
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  7. Twentyman

    Twentyman John Fury’s nut sack.... Full Member

    Apr 20, 2016
    It’s worth mentioning what he had to go through on a personal level with the Gutknecht injury. It took a big part of him away, and I think once he achieved his dream of a world title he was happy to walk away from the sport.
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