How good could Tony Tubbs have been?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Hysterical shrill Soros client queen. Full Member

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    So, do you think Buster Douglas for instance couldn't have maybe had a better career, been more than essentially a one hit wonder?
     
  2. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tubbs came along at right time to get an alphabet belt. Tucker just about eeked out an alphabet belt at the end of the merry go round...in a sense both may be slightly fortunate there imho....if there had only been 1 champ throughout the 80s and 90s...there would still have been a still lesser merry go round of sorts....larry Holmes...perhaps Dokes..Tyson...Holyfield..Bowe...Lewis...Holyfield...we get the picture .....in those circumstances these guys were lucky...in others....well i think a tucker crowned in 1984 if he'd moved along fast enough may have held onto the belt until he fought Tyson...he was more disciplined ...may have been able to handle the likes of berbick,smith,weaver,williams, Page etc...
     
  3. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Really good counter argument. I was agreeing with @IntentionalButt until I read this. Changed my perspective. Yes. That mental strength is as tangible a part of what makes a fighter as something like a powerful punch so, yes, given Tony's lack of drive we saw the best of what someone never having that fire could be.

    It's like saying how good could Evander Holyfield have been if he'd had a huge punch? He didn't, so it's a non starter. You could attribute greatness to a lot of fighters if you bestow on them a quality that they intrinsically lacked.
     
  4. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders NSB defector Full Member

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    I think his career was better than a one hit wonder. I think he had the best career he could have had. He was not meant to be long reigning, regardless of circumstances. Not everyone has the mettle of a Wladimir, Ali or Louis. It takes more than athleticism and skills. Can you imagine Holyfield getting knocked down and laying on his back, wiping his nose until he got counted out, losing his title ? Douglas did that.

    That's my take on it.
     
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  5. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders NSB defector Full Member

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    Exactly.
     
  6. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Luckily not this kind of bottomfeeding tripe. If I did I would hang myself.
     
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  7. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Be real• Full Member

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    Harsh words for a sports forum friend.
     
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  8. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta We Do Chicken Right!! Full Member

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    I ponder if Lennox Lewis would have stood a chance against Rex Layne. That's what InMemoryofJakeLamotta ponders.
     
  10. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His hands were incredibly fast
     
  11. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably champion for a year or 2. Best pure boxer of the 80's crew not named Page. If he had wanted his career to last a little longer, could have punched harder. Could see him beating Pinklon Thomas in the 85-86 time frame in he had trained.
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    Excellent post.

    I agree 100%.
     
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  13. Fuzzykat

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    I think under different circumstances, he might have held the title longer. He might have been better than he was. But I don't think he was ever going to be Larry Holmes for example.
     
  14. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He definitely could have done more.

    Success would have been predicated on staying 230 lbs or under.

    Even past prime he boxed very well in the 1991-1993 timeframe in the fights where he came in 230 lbs ish.

    Even at 244lns he kept it close veruses a prime Witherspoon

    Basically his career stalled after the Witherspoon loss. He did get the Tyson fight but was largely inactive in the two years that preceded it and the two years that followed it.

    Of course a Coke addiction didn't help.

    But lack of conditioning and long stretches of inactivitely played large roles in his uneven record
     
  15. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Along with Greg Page,Pinklon Thomas,Tim Witherspoon and Michael Dokes,Tubbs was one of those '80s heavies who were very talented but underachieved for one reason or other. Tony had fine skills and was very mobile for such a big guy.
     
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