how good is chavez jr?

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  1. WhamBam

    WhamBam Keeping Cool Full Member

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    i never rated him, and i'm still skeptical about him. issues like coming in over a 170lbs into fights, not providing urine samples before and after fights and refusing to have gloves weighed prior to a weigh in casts enormous doubts over his natural abilities, just a year ago he couldn't even get rid of zbik who sturm stopped recently after hitting him repeatedly with body shots.If martinez beats him decisively it wont have a massive impact on his career, he'll go back to fighting guys like rubio, manfredo, zbik etc
     
    WhamBam, Jun 18, 2012
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  2. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    I have no doubts he's not a clean fighter to much has gone on. He's the son of a legend. He lives by different rules sadly..

    He's improved physically, he still has technical flaws. You could see he sensed right away that Lee was inferior physically. I mean he was falling out of position, had no jab and squared up yet still got the job done. Against Martinez he's going to have to rely on more then sheer strength. He ate a lot of punches to the head. Lee doesn't present the angles Martinez does.

    Fascinating fight, I think he's a solid champion. A well matched one. I hope his reign comes to a end though.
     
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  3. MyName

    MyName Simon Adebisi Full Member

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    Better than given credit for.

    Slowly going from average to good.
     
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  4. jdempsey85

    jdempsey85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not half as good as chavez sr
     
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  5. IRONSENSE2002

    IRONSENSE2002 muslim and proud Full Member

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    hes better then i expected probably a top 5 fighter at 160. i thought lee was going to outclass him, seems like i was very wrong.
     
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  6. BoxingAnalyst

    BoxingAnalyst Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    How can anybody be a fan of Chavez Jr..






    Roids.
     
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  7. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Didn't rate him but it was clear he improved under Roach, however I still didn't see much talent. What he does have are intangiables. A seemingly strong mind with a will to win, all the while being very durable and almost impervious to pain :)
     
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  8. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    He's on the up and will make a fortune from this sport.
     
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  9. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont rate him to be honest. I thought he lost in his title try and hes always 15/20 lbs heavier then his opponents-has failed not once but TWICE to give urine tests before bouts.
     
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  10. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He gets by on his physical advantages which are very probably bought about by cheating. Also by his lineage rather than merit. He's not very good for boxing
    So, not a fan.
     
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  11. deebest

    deebest Active Member Full Member

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    He did seem to have un natural power on Saturday night.
     
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  12. Lilo

    Lilo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not on the same level as Sergio or Froch despite what some will have you believe.

    Jesus this guy beat Andy Lee FFS.

    Martinez has KO'd two guys at worst equal to Lee in Macklin and Barker yet gets slagged for it :conf
     
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  13. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Better than what most people would give him credit for. He did surprise me a little with the Lee performance. But His refusal to give urine tests before and after the fight -- if true? -- is just outright wrong, and he'd probably be the first boxer I properly suspect of cheating and would put money on it.

    Martinez will beat him up.
     
    Uncle Rico, Jun 19, 2012
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  14. SteelTownCobra

    SteelTownCobra Guest

    I like his sideburns.
     
    SteelTownCobra, Jun 19, 2012
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  15. poloaa009

    poloaa009 New Member Full Member

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    I incline toward your idea.
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