How good is Floyd's resume.

maidana almost took his head off bc he pressured while wearing big gloves, williams and margarito lay him out in his face period.

 

Having acne is not roiding, this is roiding
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It is a myth. Roach clearly stated in the video that it was mostly their fault the fight didn't happen and it was because they were against testing. You're making stuff up to suit your agenda. Roach couldn't have been more clear. It's a myth. Pac nor Roach were sure they could past a test back then because as Roach said he wasn't sure what Ariza was putting in those shakes. They didn't want the fight.

 

Pbf was 36 and faded when he fought maidana stop trying to act like that was a prime pbf who beat him 2x that would've fought Williams and margo. He was light years better them.

 

Yes, of course they could have acted differently.

That’s the benefit of hindsight.

Freddie saying if things had been handled differently, maybe the fight could have happened sooner.

Fine.


Now how about looking from Floyd’s perspective?


Could Floyd have tried to have made the fight after Manny had agreed to his number of cut off days?

Yes, he could have.

Yet he chose not to.


Could Floyd have tried to have made the fight as soon as Manny had agreed to full testing up to the day of the fight?

Yes.

Then why didn’t he?


Floyd Mayweather:

“We don’t fight to see who’s the best”

“It wasn’t the right time to fight Manny earlier. Now is the right time”


It’s sad that you have to hang on to Freddie’s video.

Also, I don’t agree with Freddie at all. Because even if they had agreed to everything from the outset, Floyd would just have put up another obstacle as to block the fight.

Floyd didn’t want it, because Roger had him spooked, pure and simple.


You won’t even acknowledge that Floyd took PEDS.

You can only repeat that he was never convicted.

You can only hide behind Bennett’s NYSAC statement.

Yet if it was Manny in that situation, you’d have had a meltdown.


The truth is:

Your hero needed PEDS and an injured, faded Manny in front of him before he’d take the fight.


I like you Pimp, but when it comes to Floyd, something takes over you.

If Floyd went on a killing spree you’d try and convince yourself that the victims were somehow at fault.


This will be my last post on this subject.

It’s been done to death.

I’ll debate other aspects of his career, but I can’t discuss the Manny saga anymore.

You can reply if you want, but respectfully, I won’t reply back to you.

 

The Maidana fight was only 8 months after his masterclass over Canelo.

Yes, Floyd was better than Williams and Marg.

It doesn’t matter does it.

Floyd was light years better than Maidana too.

It’s about how they’d have matched up stylistically.

 

Pbf was older he was old when he fought canelo he wasn't prime. Stylistically maidana is a harder match up for pbf than canelo is. With that said maidana fought nothing like margo or Williams he eats up guys like margo and Williams.

 

Floyd aged a lot in those 8 months. After the punishment he took against Canelo, he was a much slower and more shopworn fighter when he fought Maidana. That's why he looked so much better against Canelo than he did against Maidana. He showed almost no upper body movement against Maidana, against Canelo he needed the upper body movement to take the sting off Canelo's shots. That's why he trained so hard for Canelo, he knew he had to be at the top of his game. Against Maidana a much more basic fighter than Canelo, he knew he could get away with a B-level performance and still get the W.

 

I’m not saying that they fought anything alike.

I’m merely pointing out that in the space of 8 months, he’d gone from a masterclass in cruise control, to fighting for his life against Maidana.

I don’t think he’d have eaten up Marg, because I think that Marg would have used his physical abilities and he’d have tried to have walked him down where he’d have fought him aggressively.

Williams would also have been an intriguing match up.

I’d have loved to have seen those fights.

 

I respectfully disagree.

I think Maidana was just a bad stylistic match up for him.

He showed him no respect and roughed him up on the inside.

 

He wasn't in cruise control vs Canelo, that's a myth. He was fighting for his life against Canelo, he fought at a much higher level against Canelo than he did vs Maidana. After Canelo, he was beat up from all the body shots, power punches, and all the ducking and dodging all night. He trained his ass off for Canelo, he ran his engine hard against Canelo, and after the punishment he took in that match, he slowed down a lot in the space of 8 months. By the time he fought Maidana, he was far more faded and old-looking than he was vs Canelo 8 months earlier.

 

Why would pbf be scared of a guy who couldn't beat jmm clearly a guy who he was a stylistic nightmare for a guy who lost to a faded erik Morales??? No pbf along with other boxers suspected pac was on something and wanted him tested to ensure a clean fight. Pbf agreed pac didbt he ran off to fight clottey had pbf done that he would've been run out the sport. Roach said exactly what he said stop trying to change up what he said. Pac also refused to test to fight a prime pbf but did for ruiz??? Why??? Pac ducked a prime pbf because he knew the media and fans would let him and they would in turn blame pbf like you are now he knew he was a horrible styles match up for him arum knew this and so did Roach who said he needed more time to come up with a gameplan to deal with pbf. He knew pac was ****ed because pac has no answer for pbfs ability to control range and dictate distance on him. For anyone who knows boxing knew that was always a hurdle pac couldn't deal with and pbf clowns any version of pac anything else is hate mixed with ignorance bitterness and wishful thinking. The truth is pac simply isn't as great as you and others make him out to be he's flawed and too many loses and fights with guys pbf either shut out or would've beaten easily. Lastly I've yet to see one poster refute my point about pac dealing with pbfs ability to control range and dictate distance on him. Why? Because they can't and that's why pac can't beat pbf.

 

Respectfully, your logic as it pertains to Canelo and Maidana doesn't add up. Canelo is far more difficult stylistically than Maidana. The idea that Maidana was more stylistically difficult for Floyd is ridiculous. It was clear that Canelo beat the prime out of Floyd, and he was never the same again after that. The handspeed, the upper body movement that we saw on display vs Canelo was not present against Maidana. That's why he struggled against Maidana, not because Maidana is better than Canelo or harder for Floyd. That's an absurdity.

 

There’s only you who saw the fight as being really close and competitive.

He wasn’t fighting for his life against Canelo.

 

That's what happens when you're old and faded. You can fall off a cliff in your very next fight. It happens all the time. Look how bad ggg looked against chenko for example. Look how bad pac looked against ugas.
Margo is a slow wide open plodder with no jab no defense the type of guy pbf always gets accused to fighting yet because they didn't fight then margo beats the hell outta him. Had they fought pbf wouldn't have gotten much credit for beating him. Do you seriously think a Margo is going to win more rounds against pbf than he does against Margo? Margo isn't going to do that nor is he going to ko pbf how does he win? It's wishful thinking.