How good is Floyd's resume.

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not according to the judges, but the public view is that Maidana came closer to beating Floyd than Canelo. It's a subjective interpretation of which was closer or competitive, it was stylistically a much different fight. I would say Maidana has more sustained offense on Floyd than Canelo had, which was because Floyd was easier to hit and wasn't as elusive against Maidana.
     
  2. drenlou

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    Fair enough shadow.
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Maidana throws a looping overhand right which is a great punch to throw against the shoulder roll because it can get past the defense and land on the temple resulting in pbfs loss of balance. Mosley throws a good one as well and shook pbf to his boots with it. Other boxers should have thrown that punch more against pbf. With that said pbf did adjust and didn't get hit with it again after the second round of their fight.
     
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  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I’m not saying that he wasn’t hurt.

    I’m saying that it was stylistically easy for him, and in most people’s eyes, it was a comfortable win.

    He never looked in trouble at all.

    I have only ever seen yourself say it was a very close fight.


    Pimp also believes that it was an easy win.

    So I’d really like to see you both debate that if possible.
     
  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good point, we hear people say the same thing about how Khan vs Mayweather. How Mayweather would have schooled Khan, how Mayweather would have figured out Khan after a few rounds. Yet back in 2015 everyone wanted to see Mayweather fight Khan, because stylistically it was clear that Khan was all wrong for Mayweather. Remember Khan beat Maidana, who people say came close to beating Floyd.
     
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  6. Pimp C

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    We have debated it many times and it's always fun lol.
     
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  7. shadow111

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    He never looked in trouble, like he did against Maidana. There are reasons for that, that was primarily because he wasn't the same fighter. He had slowed down, he was easier to hit.
     
  8. Loudon

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    He wasn’t as elusive because Maidana went at him hard and pressured him.

    Oscar also made him uncomfortable by pressuring him on the ropes and in the corners, and that was back in 2007.
     
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  9. Pimp C

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    Khan is too basic and chinny to beat pbf. What people say about pbf figuring khan out is spot on. Khan doesn't make adjustments he fights the same way during the course of a fight. That won't work against pbf. Maidana is a harder fight for pbf than Khan is especially the garcia trained Maidana. Maidana is willing to sell out Khan is willing to try and box a superior outboxer.
     
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  10. shadow111

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    I would agree that Floyd is a superior outboxer to Khan and knows how to make adjustments while Khan doesn't. But he still would have been difficult stylistically for Floyd due primarily to Khan's speed and activity level. Khan being chinny wouldn't be a problem vs faded 2015 Floyd as that version of Floyd wasn't stopping anyone.
     
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  11. shadow111

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    That was part of it too. Maidana pressured Floyd far more than Canelo did. Canelo showed Floyd too much respect, he didn't press the action as much as he could have, but the problem with pressing that version of Floyd was that Canelo hadn't developed head movement back then, and without head movement, he would have walked into more stiff jabs. The key to Floyd's victory over Canelo was the jab, Canelo was too stiff and upright, he simply ate too many jabs, which was why he lost several rounds that were competitive otherwise, he needed to give Floyd more head movement to slip the jab and get inside if he wanted to pressure him and be effective that way. Instead Canelo chose to trade jabs with Floyd from the outside, and look for openings, which yielded moderate success but not enough to win a decision.
     
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  12. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFLMAO just admit you have no answer but this BS. You know I know Everyone knows it was blatant corruption. One rule for the Wolfman with his tufts of hair , He looks ridiculous BTW, & another set of rules for the others. I dont know why they even made him show up to "fight" may just as well just handed him the titles robbing his opponents either way
     
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  13. rodxd

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    it evens out with how much better am an pw are than maidana and how much past mayweda is from his prime
     
  14. C.J.

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    ROFLMAO C'mon Pimp youre making yourself look even more foolish now.. You claim Margarito cheated Now its Pac's turn for your idiotic accusations !! Everyone cheats but Floyd & Ginger according to you . Both Floyd & Canelo are PROVEN Ped's abusers but both benefit by having the State Commission cover their cheating ,or at least attempting to but only succeeding in further proving their guilt Youre getting to be as ridiculous as Shadow,IsaL ,drenlou etc youre nothing but a troll nowadays lol Give it up Be a man come clean
     
  15. shadow111

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    As an addendum to the difference in Floyd's condition vs Canelo and Maidana, I submit this screenshot showing Floyd at the Canelo weigh-in then at the Maidana 1 weigh-in side by side :

    https://i.imgur.com/6WtPK9r.jpg

    The difference is very noticable. Against Canelo, he's ripped with a chiseled physique, still looking Prime, you can see his ribs through his skin, he's in a jovial mood, smiling ear to ear. He feels good, looks good, and he's ready to perform at his best.

    Against Maidana, he has a completely different look and demeanor. He's not happy to be there like he was against Canelo. The expression on his face speaks volumes. He's got more body fat vs Maidana, despite being at a lower weight. You can't see his ribs when he flexes like you could 8 months earlier.

    And most importantly, look at his frame. Against Maidana, he has sunken shoulders, smaller biceps. A much less confident flex, demeanor and overall look 8 months later.