How good is John Duddy?

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  1. A-50

    A-50 Active Member Full Member

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    they are going to cash him out in a title fight just like they did Gerry Cooney wait and see.
     
  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    He is going to be very popular because of his style, he is good looking & charismatic and he is white.
    I mean a black or hispanic version of Duddy would have almost about the widespread popularity but fact is blacks like to follow blacks, hispanics follow hispanics and white people like to follow white people. Its just the way things are.

    I dont think he is an elite fighter but he will get plenty of T.V fights and probably several title shots (like Gatti did) when he isnt necessarily the most deserving. At some stage he could definitely pick up a trinket from 160-168.
    He should be in some great fights before he retires, maybe not the next Gatti but he might get close.
     
  3. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    I don't agree with the section of your post that states that people follow fighters because of their skin colour. More often then not nationality is the biggest factor in people supporting a particular fighter, that IMO followed by fighting style. Tonnes of Americans supported Jeff Lacy and likewise they do now with Kelly Pavlik. Different coloured fighters but both with the same nationality and aggressive fighting style.
     
  4. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look at the crowd when a mexican-american is fighting its mostly mexican.
    Same when a filipino is fighting, filipinos come to watch.

    Look at a crowd especially when an up and coming black fighter is fighter there are a lot of black people in the audience cheering him on.
    Im sure Malignaggi has tonnes of Italians turning out to see him fight.

    Duddy pulls the Irish crowd (and probably the Scots-Irish crowd), which constitutes 12% of the 200 million plus white americans.

    Its not meant to be a blanket statement, when fighters get to the elite level they are just followed by whoever likes them. But guys like Duddy who are coming up, certainly at first attract a certain demographic.
     
  5. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Even in your post though your pointing to people supporting nationality not skin colour. Mexicans supporting Mexicans. Italians supporting Italians. I don't often find Americans supporting Joe Calzaghe or Ricky Hatton because they are white..... People support fighters most often IMO out of pride for their country. I think the reason Duddy will be popular is because fights out of America but with Irish Heritage, much like Vargas being mexican but fighting out of the us, or Kostya being russian but fighting out of Australia.
     
  6. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    never seen him fight just high light so i realy can't judge him
     
  7. Hrak

    Hrak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His a good offensive fighter, but gets hit way too much. I think he will get KO'd as soon as he steps up to an elite fighter with a punch.
     
  8. WhataRock

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    For a guy fighting in America thats what that means.
    Just like over hear an "Aussie", which should mean any person who is Australian by nationality, is often an Anglo-Celtic person.
    Most White americans are of German descent but for obvious reasons people dont claim it as much as people being Irish.
    Its different in America dude, they are working the Irish angle but its also because he is a white guy coming up in a division that has traditionally been dominated by black guys. He is something different much like how Cooney was hyped because of his skin colour.

    Dont get me wrong MSTR by far the main reason Duddy will appeal to people because of his style and charisma.
     
  9. RAMPAGE0017

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    Yory Boy was well past his best, as well. Which is exactly why I don't ever see Duddy becoming a top 10 fighter in any weight division.
     
  10. Vincent Gottschalk

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    Duddy is a good action fighter who will win a title, ones Pavlik moves up and they split the titles again. But Duddy will have a hard time holding on too a title because he cuts too easy:hat
     
  11. Rock0052

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    I think Duddy's got the potential to pick up an alphabet title here or there depending on matchups, but he's not the kind of guy who will hold on to it for 5+ defenses and be a threat to unify.

    I think the comparisons to Gatti and Lopez are really a "best case" scenario for him, but I can see the point. If he's a solid contender (which isn't a stretch for him) and continues to give exciting fights, I think that should be enough to satisfy most people.
     
  12. chewy 22

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    I think the americans are picking the wrong irishman to support. they should support Andy Lee, whose a much better fighter
     
  13. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Trust me, I've got much higher expectations out of Lee. :deal
     
  14. Irish Steel

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    Duddy will be a top ten contender. Easily. He'll most likely get an alphabet tile, maybe even two at once, but wont unify them, or even hold them for very long. Mainly because of cuts. Just like Cooney, or Quarry. Good, but didnt get a world title mainly because of cuts.
     
  15. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Very good, very entertaining, but not great and a fair cry from elite.

    If managed properly, he can have a very good future. Or, he might become a non-factor overnight. Either way, nobody will ever confuse him as the best in any division.

    Fun to watch, though.