Pantera is the new WBC champ at bantam as of yesterday, dethroning longtime king Shinsuke Yamanaka by KO. The hard-punching Mexican southpaw is now 24-0 (18). Now, it had occurred to me that Yamanaka was perhaps holding his hand a little too close to the fire if he lingered much longer in the game, rapidly approaching his 35th birthday (historically a signpost of "you're too damn old!" for anyone in this weight range except maybe the great Omar Andrés Narváez), and it doesn't come as much of a surprise that he lost his title and with it his zero to an undefeated knockout artist who cut his teeth on the domestic scene in Mexico, which produces a large concentration of the elite talent in this weight range - but, I never thought Yamanaka would be upset by somebody completely unknown to me. That's largely my fault, as Nery's rise has coincided with me taking a step away from the sport over the last year or so, but still. His record before this crack at Yamanaka was decent and everything, but there was nothing on paper to suggest he was definitely going to hang with the elite. Of course, the eye test matters a lot in boxing, and those who saw Nery might have anticipated his defeat of Yamanaka. I, however, managed to somehow never see Nery before. Just poking through BoxRec looking at every single card he fought on for the last couple of years, and comparing with my list of RBR threads (and even searching for posts I made in other people's threads), he just happened to have never crossed the path of my viewing habits. So, for anyone that had caught a gander or several of him before twenty hours ago, was this a fluke where Yamanaka declined overnight and would've lost to anybody halfway decent with a remotely bad style for him, or is Nery a worthy successor?
This content is protected Damn. Well, okay. Shin looked pretty much himself early in the 1st, and then just got increasingly uncomfortable, whether it was facing a fellow southpaw, or feeling the power, or Nery's tricky defensive footwork & upper body movement for a stalker-puncher. Kid just broke him down. Interesting to note that Eduardo Lamazón of Azteca (sort of like Mexico's version of Harold Lederman, but with a probably superior reputation, usually fair in his scoring even when a countryman is facing a foreigner) gave the challenger two of the completed three rounds, including the relatively close first, but not a clean sweep. Lamazón saw Yamanaka staging a brief comeback in R3, despite Nery landing some huge bombs on him. Yamanaka did assert himself in that stanza, making some physical contact with his always snappy right jab, but most of it was glancing oblique contact on the side of the head, with the Mexican weaving side to side. The former champ did make Nery miss a few lunging hooks, and had a late surge of heavy 1-2s, but most were blocked. I personally saw it a whitewash, 30-27 for Pantera before the stoppage.
hes a tough sob he impressed the s--- out of me seems to be able to take a good punch typical tough mexican fighter
He definitely showed some deficiencies(still keeps right too low) which I though Yamanaka would be able to take advantage of but too much heart, too much power.
Saguilán is someone I have definitely seen before. I'm going to go out right now on a limb and say the smaller Nery is a tad better pound for pound.
I predicted it. I'm fairly high on Nery, but he's got a lot of flaws, he was dropped fairly hard by Tabugon, due to his reckless nature, he had him hurt and went for the kill and almost got Pacquiao'd for it, but he learned his lesson and came back more defensively responsible in the next round. I've seen about 6 or 7 of Nery's matches and have had my eye on him for quite a while, he's a relentless hunter killer, almost Lemieux-esque, and like Lemieux he shares many of his deficiencies, but unlike Lemiuex he seems to learn with every fight, he's getting more patience and more calculating, and he followed the gameplan I figured he would against Yamanaka, I assumed he'd play it safe for a few rounds, get his timing down and look for his chance to get his wild left or right hooks in, and since Yamanaka's chin has been deteriorating in his last few matches, I figured if Nery hurt him, he wouldn't let him off the hook, and that's pretty much what happened to a T.
Here's my thread on him. Luis Esteban Nery: Pantera The Bantamweight Tijuana Torbellino-The Afro Mexicano Machete.
I have never seen Davey move his upper body or head as well as Nery did versus Left God. (whom, sadly, I don't see making a successful return. Not taking any credit away from Luis, but this was a huge confidence-shattering loss, the kind it takes a few years to rebound from, and Yama simply has too much on the odometer...)
Little bit of both... Nery probably isn't that good, but is good enough and has the kind of relentlessness(even if a bit reckless) that can offset an aging but still good fighter. This reminded me of Uchiyama/Corrales in so many ways, right down to the way Nery fights.. That was pretty much my rationale for going with Nery. Interesting that as the fight closed in Nery was a small favorite on a lot of betting sites.
Yeah, especially with this being a big step up for him and that last impression he left, as CST mentioned, of getting dropped by the inferior Tabugon.
Oh wow, just looked at the RBR thread and was shocked to see that everybody had Yamanaka up (some by three zip!) before the KO.
I hadn't seen much if anything of him prior to this fight being announced either, admittedly not as big a follower of the lower weight classes. Did catch that fight and it was just a case of him being insanely reckless and getting dropped running in, he dominated the round before and after the KD. He'll probably lose rather quickly, maybe even in a rematch.. Definitely seems like the kind of guy who could get caught cold early or outboxed by a superior technician.
No, neither have I, he's more skilled than David, but has the same tendency to turn into a wild man, and I didn't think Yamanaka should have taken this match, he barely made it past an old shot Moreno twice, and looked shitty against Solis, who's no spring chicken either, and was dropped fairly hard by both of them. The writing was on the wall, his chin is gone, like Anselmo's he needs to hang it up.
I expected that too. They were nip and tuck type of rounds, Nery almost edged the 2nd and 3rd, but Yamanaka was landing his jab enough to take the first three, Nery was just looking for an opening, he didn't want to risk it in his big step up so he was far more patient than usual.