How Good is Roach at TRAINING?

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  1. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    He's more of an offensive coach ..I thought both Khan and Manny had trouble when their opponents were on the attack ..Marquez and Peterson ..Their conditioning has kept them in the fights but defense looked way too suspect .
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    the numbers tell the story, Roach is a legend and probably the best trainer since Futch

    right now though, the parkinsons is starting to take it's toll. Actually it's already taken it's toll
     
  3. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    :lol::patsch "Oh my GAWD!"

    We all know you only say this because he trains the god you worship, also known as Dapidran.
     
  4. pong

    pong Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he is very good more focussed on offense then defense but that isn't a major problem.parkinson is getting worse i think can't really talk in the corner much anymore sadly
     
  5. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Linares got worse under Roach. Kahn has not improved under Roach. JCC JR. HAS improved under Roach. The list goes on. Hes a good trainer, but not for everyone. Chemistry has a lot to do with it, as does the fighter temperament. Freddie is good with offensive fighters who are mentally tough and have good chins. If you are not those things, your probably not a great match for Freddie.
     
  6. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roach can't turned average boxers into elites those kinds are born not made.You can't teach chin, speed and power.It is a gift from the heavens.As a trainer he is great when he has a amazing boxer to begin with.But Linares and Khan are all flash no real substance.Khan runs in a scuffle and Linares has no chin.I don't think either are power hitters in the game.
     
  7. Cinderella Man

    Cinderella Man Deleebr 'eem into mahands Full Member

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    The most overrated coach in a long while. He is a good trainer, but not remotely as good as the hype machine and dumb masses make him out to be.
     
  8. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roach gets the best of his fighters.
    He does all the little things top notch. crazy experience and passion for the sport.
    Great example is latef kayode. most people dont know kayode is really 49.
     
  9. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hes a good offense trainner, also a good match maker, and agree that his style is good for brawlers but put them infront of a boxer and they get exposed. Fighter looses to a boxer most of the time.
     
  10. Chex31

    Chex31 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :deal
     
  11. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A good trainer is an important part of the formula. However, the fighter must be willing to listen to the trainer and have the discipline to implement the fight plan. The same thing happened with Steward in the past and when his fighters began to lose everybody began to jump ship. It seems like the next trainer to be over hyped is Robert Garcia.

    Still though we must give credit to Roach as he was one of the only American trainers that saw something in a young Pac Man.
     
  12. natep

    natep Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can't train a chin unfortunately.
     
  13. Emeritus

    Emeritus Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look there is always has to be a media darling and that's who Roach is.

    Ofcourse he is a good trainer, HOWEVER he is NO WHERE NEAR the best trainer, not even close.

    Manny, Khan, Linares & Chavez Jr all lack defense, inside fighting, fighting backwards etc etc

    I mean how many times have we seen a wildcard fighter against the ropes eating upper cuts?

    People like Tyson, Toney, Hopkins were already master boxers and didn't require Roach to teach them skills but go over game plans and help with timing and conditioning.

    Roach is the chosen one but thats as far as it goes.
     
  14. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To all the people that posted here, please post your boxing Qualifications!