How Good is Shane against elite opposition

Not that impressive, getting schooled by Winky twice and Vernon Forrest. Both guys had outstanding jabs.

 

Well personally i felt his run at 154 was dreadful, i had him losing the rematch against oscar, vargas was a shot fighter by the time Shane got to him, with both of them making somewhat of a comeback. I thought shane should have retired after landing about one meaningful punch in 2 fights against Winky wright.

At 147 tho, thats a whole 'nother matter.

 

The thing is you can't take away DLH, Vargas and Margarito and then ask how he fights at the top level.

That's like saying, aside from Bonin, Barrett and Valuev, who has Haye fought at heavyweight?

And at least Shane fought them. He did pretty good against Cotto and the second time around against Forrest. He also went up in weight and always gave a good account of himself.

 

Well the Vernon Forrest he met in their first fight was something else altogether, it would have taken a special fighter to beat him that night.

Also whats held shane back for too long was him sticking by his dad as his trainer, had he gone with somebody else after his first loss, i think he would be the man right now.

 

This.

To actually hear Jack tell Shane to "use anything" even "elbows" against Wright in their first fight was ******ed.

His Dad took him to a level but couldn't progress him any further in my opinion.

 

Giving Oscar he's loss in one of the best WW fights ever and KOing the iron chin Margo is already enough. Floyd with all my respect for him never fought a fighter as good as Oscar in his prime

 

Take away Morales, Barrera and Cotto, Pacquiao really hasn't proved himself at elite level. I'm assuming he's been doping his entire career as well, naturally.

 

****ing ridiculous thread.

 

Jack Mosley didn't even have Shane spar 12 rounds in preparation for the Holiday fight. atsch

He's probably also the reason that Mosley's jab has been neglected over the years.

 

Really? **** me I didn't know that. Mosley seems to have come good under Richardson so hopefully it will be a worthwhile move against Floyd.

 

whit or whitout steroids ?

 

I think it works both ways. Mosley may not have beaten a whole load of great fighters, but not many have beaten him at 147lbs. He never belonged at 154lbs, so those losses can be ignored. His resume is pretty good, though it would have been better, if he had the drawing power of De La Hoya or Trinidad.