How good of a fight could Cooney have given Tyson in 1986?

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  1. Woddy

    Woddy Guest

    In 1986, Mike Tyson was between 19-20 years old. Cooney was 29-30. Tyson stood 5'11" and weighed around 216. Cooney was 6'7" and weighed about 225. Cooney wasn't particularly active, but scored okay wins over Phil Brown, George Chaplin, and Eddie Greg. Tyson was much more active, but being taken 10 rounds a piece by Tillis, Green and Ribalta. Later that year he would destroy Berbick.

    Could Cooney's size, experience and style have prevailed against a young, green Tyson? On the otherhand, would Cooney be another Mitch Green who just survived the 10 round distance?. Or would Cooney's inactivity and lack of confidence, lead him down the path to a stoppage early?

    What do you think?
     
  2. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, if Cooney gets his huge left hooks in clean on Tyson right away, he has a shot at discouraging Tyson, but I doubt he'd get them in, as he didn't have a good jaw, or survival skills.
     
  3. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    :good
     
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  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Cooney was one of my favorite fighters when I was first really getting into boxing, but he would have been cannon fodder for Tyson in '86. If he made it past the third, I'd be surprised.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    Tyson would chop him down in no time. Anywhere from 35 seconds to 3 rounds for me.
     
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  6. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    For once i have to agree with you.

    I think Cooney had very little durability. Just that it was hidden by the fact that he rarely faced a puncher who was anywhere close to his prime. Tyson would annihilate him.
     
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cooney mentally would not of been able to cope. He in theory had the physical tools to compete, but Cooney was with hindsight (I thought he would give Spinks hell :oops:), a lost cause post Holmes.
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Tyson would get a good workout for his next fight.
     
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  9. godking

    godking Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson wins this probably early Cooney has neither the style or Chin to beat Tyson.

    I see Cooney lasting 5 rounds at best.
     
  10. JohnBKelly

    JohnBKelly Member Full Member

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    Cooney was shot after the Holmes fight so he would be easy meat for Tyson in 86 just like he was for Spinks. Cooney and Tyson both threw away their best years.
     
  11. Woddy

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    If Cooney shows up in good shape in 1986, against Tyson unlike the way he was against Spinks a year later, then he might give Tyson a few rounds worth of trouble. Cooney was much larger than Tyson, and might catch Mike as he's coming in with some of those left hooks and uppercuts. Gerry would have been one of the hardest and largest punchers that Mike ever faced, and a 1986 Tyson at age 19-20, was having enough trouble with a shot Tillis, and average Mitch Green. Cooney didn't have the durability needed to go 10 rounds with Tyson, but keep in mind, Tyson would still have to land on Cooney to take full advantage of this. When Gerry wanted to, he could box fairly well, and had a lengthy jab with significant power.

    Most people see Cooney in 1986 falling victom to Tyson early, and that may be the case, but if Gerry shows up ready to fight, then he might give a green Tyson trouble for 5 or 6 rounds.
    A 1981 Cooney could have given an 86' Tyson quite a bit of trouble if he cought him early.
     
  12. Langford

    Langford Active Member Full Member

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    Cooney would largely beat himself before he got into the ring. I do not like his chances all that much. '86 Tyson KO 2 '86 Gerry Cooney.
     
  13. CzarKyle

    CzarKyle Member Full Member

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    I agree 100% with this. Cooney could have landed some decent shots against Tyson, but I highly doubt he'd last too long after getting tagged by Tyson's left hook.

    Cooney against Spinks I'd easily assume Cooney coming out on top, but Spinks really but that thought to death.

    Second Opinion (It just came to me): If Cooney had come in ready for the fight like against Holmes, then he'd have a much greater chance. But would Cooney have been able to get himself that psyched up again? That's the thin line that would make that fight go from a possible Tyson domination to a real slugfest. I'd still say a young Tyson would come out on top.

    Now if we start placing certain version's of each fighter against each other, I'd say:

    1981 Cooney Vs. 1988 Tyson - This would be the battle to watch.
    Winner: Tyson possibly by late match KO, and maybe...just maybe...Cooney would be able to do some serious damage to Tyson.

    1986 Cooney Vs. 1986 Tyson - I'd say this one a young Tyson still does damage. This version of Cooney appeared beatable.

    1981 Cooney Vs. 1990 Tyson (The Buster Douglas version) - This would be Cooney's best chance to win. Nearly any great contender could lay claim to this version. I can't really call this one. I want to say Cooney, but I'm unsure.

    1990 Cooney Vs. 1988 Tyson - This would be a huge blow out. Tyson victory.
     
  14. JohnThomas1

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    The thing here to is that Holmes took the sensible super cautious route vs Cooney. He had him possibly ready to go early but remained cautious, if he let loose she might be goodnight. Holmes may have made Cooney look better by simply giving him plenty of time to compete. It's reasonable that Holmes might have taken Cooney out easily
     
  15. SteveO

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    Even with his size, I think Cooney would be a little terrified.

    Tyson would get inside and knock him out.