How good of a run is Franklin, Helenius, Wallin, Ngannou?

Beats any run wilder ever had

 

AJ is the best HW outside of Fury/Usyk that's undoubted.

But this is an awful run of opponents. Not a single ranked fighter in these 4 fights, it's shocking tbh. All PPV as well.

 

Either ignorance or intentional hate, both are inexcusable. Wallin was IBF #2 and a solid top 10 in almost all org. before he fought Joshua.

Boxing fans are the worst I've seen in my life, you become sh*t and overrated immediately you have 1 loss. That's why some wise boxers go to any length to avoid losing their 0.

 

You hate AJ more than I do. I think he's easily the next best HW outside of the unification fight. I also have been to watch him fight in person and you haven't.

Maybe Wallin was a top ten fighter, but for someone of Joshua's stature, 1 ranked opponent in 4 PPV fights is a shocking run, I rate him much higher than you so I have higher expectations than you do.

No one mentioned a fighter losing his unbeaten record apart from you. Unbeaten means much less than you think it does.

 

This is what kills boxing, picking apart every boxer to the atomic level and calling them ALL bums.

 

Yea. I absolutely hate it.
And it can be done with anyone, so it´s meaningless.

 

You seem really salty about Joshua. Why exactly? He's keeping active after a loss and going after the big money fights. One of those would have been Whyte if he hadn't been done for drugs, and the other one would have been Wilder if he'd not shat the bed against Joshua victim Parker. If he beats Ngannou he'll probably target the winner of Usyk Fury. So what exactly are you going on about him avoiding the serious threats of the division?

 

Who was that idiot used to pick apart every single Fury, Wilder and Joshua win, and always had Joshua coming out the worst of it? Had about a million different alts but they all used the same posting style lol.

 

In terms of what he needed its been a perfect comeback route. More boxers should take that route after a defeat. A step back in level and fights in reasonably quick succession.

In terms of the level....its a clear step down and doesnt really tell us how joshua will do when he comes up against much better competition.

The most important thing tho is hes peaked with wallin. After poor performances them first two come back fights.

The truth is he,d have probably lost against better competition them first two fights. He genuinely looks like a contender again after wallin tho. Impressive performance. Perfect comeback route.....if the competition is pretty poor. Them fights we,re never about proving hes number one or two at the weight tho. Not really possible without fighting usyk or fury. What they did do tho is got his confidence going a bit....got him back enjoying boxing....back stopping people and ironed out the things from them first two fights.

The competition is poor in determining his standing in the division tho tbh. Helenius on peds was a good win. Wallin was useless and had no real offense to be any real kind of danger.

 

Joshua v Franklin and Joshua v Helenius were included with DAZN here in Japan (and UK as I understand it).
It was only Joshua v Wallin (top 10) that headlined a PPV card.
But I guess Joshua v Ngannou will (though I probably won't buy that one though; I didn't buy Fury v Ngannou, and Mayweather v McGreggor for the same reason - not really competitive fights)

I gather Joshua v Whyte (who was another top 10 opponent) was planned as a PPV, but they included it in the subscription when Helenius became the last minute replacement.

So sure one top 10 opponent in 4 PPVs would be a shocking run, but that isn't/wasn't Joshua's run. Or at least not for Japan and the UK.

Did they put Franklin and Helenius on PPV in your region?

 

I'm in the UK, and the prices here for DAZN skyrocketed.

To watch the AJ fights without being a subscriber it was £20 a time on DAZN.

I paid because I follow AJs career. But I can't be pretending this 4 fight run is impressive.

His performance against Wallin was quality, but there's fight that coul be made against Zhang, Hrgovic or Parker that would be much more impressive.

 

Aj is on a come back trail building his confidence and reputation not a champion like fury was that is the difference.
He can’t take a loss so he has to fight that level, fury did it to rack up his victories.

 

Where did I say AJ’s resume was legendary? All I said was it’s solid and that his current run is ok, especially considering the lack of movement in the division and when compared with Fury and Wilder’s runs of fights. I’m not hyping him up in any way, I just think the Wallin performance deserves credit considering the guy gave Fury hell and beat Gassiev. Helenius and Franklin were what they were, average/below average and not stand out fights. That being said the Ngannou fight is a cherry pick and Joshua should be fighting Hrgovic.

I also find the whole calling pro boxers bums a little silly and frankly none of us are in a position to be calling them that.

 

Fury has Ngannou, Chisora, Whyte, Wilder. That is better imo.