How good was Andre Ward?

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  1. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Jan 5, 2017
    calzaghe underrated himself.
    that's what happens when you let warren run your career and the best fighter you beat in your prime was mikkel kessler.
  2. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jan 22, 2009
    Thanks man!
  3. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

    Nov 4, 2017
    Andre Ward is one of the most overrated boxers in history.

    1. He refused to fight in other countries during the Super Six, he had home advantage in EVERY fight. He needed dodgy officials to win. Compare that to Usyk, who won all his big fights in foreign countries.

    2. He had dodgy home referees that permitted him to use illegal tactics (head butts, excessive holding, low blows, etc). Ward-Kovalev II was the first low blow TKO I've ever seen. The Kessler-Ward fight was stopped after Kessler was injured by an obviously deliberate head butt.

    3. He had home judges who were there when he needed them - a good example was the robbery in Ward-Kovalev I. All three judges scored the 10th round for Ward, a round Kovalev clearly won.

    4. He was the beneficiary of a robbery in the Olympics - he should never have won gold.

    5. And he worked for years with a nutritionalist who was notorious for PEDs, an expert on how to use PEDs and not get caught.

    Without illegal tactics and his dirty officials, Ward was a mediocre boxer.
  4. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4 Full Member

    Sep 19, 2012
    Great fighter one of my favorites to watch good skill good heart. I understand how he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way though.
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  5. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Legacy destroyed. Avoided beterbiev and bivol
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  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    Ward never liked to fight away from home either he like the home cooked decisions but sad part for him was he could never sell out his home town arena. He was one of the dirtiest over all fighters going there wasn't a foul he didn't use. He almost sterilized poor Kovalev while Weekes looked the other way
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  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    He almost sterilized Kovalev he uses his testes as a speed bag while the ref looked the other way
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  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

    Dec 6, 2008
    ATG fighter. Supremely skilled and mentally tough. But dirty and could be a little boring.
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  9. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

    Dec 6, 2008
    He is a narcissist.
  10. piprules

    piprules Active Member Full Member

    May 11, 2019
    He was a bit like a smw Holyfield.
  11. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

    Sep 12, 2015
    Was never fussed on him, boring to watch, not that he ever fought that often.

    Nah, never rated him, did nothing for me, another fighter that ppl vastly over rated, surprise surprise!
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  12. Rollin

    Rollin Well-Known Member Full Member

    Nov 17, 2021
  13. MantraNo10

    MantraNo10 New Member banned Full Member

    Feb 27, 2023
    better than Froch, Chad Dawson, Kessler, Pascal

    not as good as Beterbiev, Kovalev & Calzaghe
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  14. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 29, 2017
    Andre Ward. Held Dawson to his word of fighting at 168. Dawson, who entered as the WBC Light Heavyweight Champion, was fighting at 168 pounds for the first time in over six years and seemed to be badly weight drained. The day of the weigh in Dawson had to shed 9lbs.
    Andre Ward. Said he would fight Floyd at 160. Andre Ward. Ran away when Gokovkin proposed a fight at 164. Retired with 32 fights. Lol.
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  15. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

    May 29, 2007
    Ward would have ravaged and ravished Lil G who clearly did not want it.